Electric Vehicles
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@SammyC said in Electric Vehicles:
meh, the BMW m3 stopped existing for me once they stopped producing the naturally aspirated v8.
So you only like one series of M3 then ... it's always been a 6cyl with the exception of the e90
@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
@SammyC said in Electric Vehicles:
meh, the BMW m3 stopped existing for me once they stopped producing the naturally aspirated v8.
I originally thought the same when MB went from the M156 to the M177. I've changed my mind.
Not a MB fan, but the noise that 6.2 V8 makes is arguably the best sound in motoring.
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@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
@SammyC said in Electric Vehicles:
meh, the BMW m3 stopped existing for me once they stopped producing the naturally aspirated v8.
So you only like one series of M3 then ... it's always been a 6cyl with the exception of the e90
@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
@SammyC said in Electric Vehicles:
meh, the BMW m3 stopped existing for me once they stopped producing the naturally aspirated v8.
I originally thought the same when MB went from the M156 to the M177. I've changed my mind.
Not a MB fan, but the noise that 6.2 V8 makes is arguably the best sound in motoring.
Yeah it’s the only m3 I’d buy.
So I guess I’d better hurry up before they become unaffordable.
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The hardest part for Tesla and fleet is having adequate servicing and parts availability. I know there were some teething issues with BMW as regional areas didn't have access to a local service agent. Also with front line Police vehicles they often operate 24 hours a day so they would need some way of ensuring the vehicles are charged. Probably not a major issue as the trucks often sit at the station before and after shifts but they would have to risk assess a code red job occurring and the vehicle having insufficient charge to attend.
But with any technology as batteries improve the distance achieved per charge will only improve and I assume the Police would ask for a vehicle that has a lot more capacity perhaps.
Fleet for Govt must be an incredible cost and I wonder just how much they spend on fuel, servicing and replacement annually.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@chimoaus police is a very different operation, compared to other services. Never thought about it like that.
Nearby superchargers will help
Depends how many hours a day a police car is usually at base / on the road. If there is sufficient time at base and they install all the right charging apparatus it will be fine.
Public reaction to seeing government cars taking up valuable super Charger spots could be interesting tho.
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@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@chimoaus police is a very different operation, compared to other services. Never thought about it like that.
Nearby superchargers will help
Depends how many hours a day a police car is usually at base / on the road. If there is sufficient time at base and they install all the right charging apparatus it will be fine.
Public reaction to seeing government cars taking up valuable super Charger spots could be interesting tho.
Police cars generally spend a lot of time on the road. General duty cars are often used 24 hours. Traffic cars may have 8 hours off the road a day depending on staff levels and rostering. The problem is though, even if a police car is not being used it needs to be ready to go in case it is needed.
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@mariner4life said in Electric Vehicles:
@Snowy said in Electric Vehicles:
@chimoaus said in Electric Vehicles:
I understand the electric system is more durable than combustion engines?
Something like 20 moving parts compared to an ICE with 200 - 1500 depending on who you believe / what you include.
Fuel cost saving of 70%, service cost saving a bit over 50%
BYD to install wireless electric bus chargers to deliver 500km range
BYD to provide 33-strong electric bus fleet with 300kW wireless inductive charging infrastructure to Indianapolis.
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@NTA interesting. We have a similar system that provides the same outcome. Trying to get it over the line in a certain part of NSW. It's not wireless though, which I admit is pretty cool.
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@mariner4life roof mounted systems are the thing I reckon. Like suburban trains
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Noise for pedestrians because electric vehicles are quiet...
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@antipodean was a discussion point early on from Tesla as well.
Question is: how will it help fuckwits who have airpods in all the time?
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@NTA should be able to broadcast direct to airpods... "watch out dumbass, it's a car!!"
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@Paekakboyz Apple will never go for it
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Today I had the experience of sitting between two people who were comparing their anxieties about having recently lost another bar on their Leaf’s battery health. His has dropped to 11 and the hers has dropped to 8. I can’t be arsed finding out what they started with but she sounded concerned, especially when he told her that they are 9 grand plus labour to replace. Interestingly neither owner knows what exactly happens to th old battery pack. They are just sure they’ll be recycled, somehow.
The whole conversation didn’t put my doubts to bed.
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@JC said in Electric Vehicles:
Today I had the experience of sitting between two people who were comparing their anxieties about having recently lost another bar on their Leaf’s battery health. His has dropped to 11 and the hers has dropped to 8. I can’t be arsed finding out what they started with but she sounded concerned, especially when he told her that they are 9 grand plus labour to replace. Interestingly neither owner knows what exactly happens to th old battery pack. They are just sure they’ll be recycled, somehow.
The whole conversation didn’t put my doubts to bed.
What were you attending to find yourself in such a position? Some sort of festival celebrating vegan BBQ food?
I have to admit that almost all of my skepticism around EV is from my iphone. I'm still not convinced battery tech is good enough to accurately predict range etc. I genuinely think I'd be panicky at 50% of battery gone.
I'll be happy to be proven wrong as times goes on.
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I wonder how long before the Aus Govt introduces a kilometre road user tax like NZ does with diesel. No doubt they will have to do something as more electric cars come on line their tax from fuel will shrink. They have to pay for roads somehow.
Also I wonder if you will get large supercharging rest stops with associated Mcdonalds etc to replace the Servos.
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@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
@JC said in Electric Vehicles:
Today I had the experience of sitting between two people who were comparing their anxieties about having recently lost another bar on their Leaf’s battery health. His has dropped to 11 and the hers has dropped to 8. I can’t be arsed finding out what they started with but she sounded concerned, especially when he told her that they are 9 grand plus labour to replace. Interestingly neither owner knows what exactly happens to th old battery pack. They are just sure they’ll be recycled, somehow.
The whole conversation didn’t put my doubts to bed.
What were you attending to find yourself in such a position? Some sort of festival celebrating vegan BBQ food?
I have to admit that almost all of my skepticism around EV is from my iphone. I'm still not convinced battery tech is good enough to accurately predict range etc. I genuinely think I'd be panicky at 50% of battery gone.
I'll be happy to be proven wrong as times goes on.
The chemistry in portable device batteries is a bit distant from cars.
