RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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@Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.
Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.
They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.
You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.
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New Zealand 1/5 on
Ireland 5/1Just sayin like...
pfffft, sounds like another Paddy Power promotion to merk people.
Yes - Paddy Power and 16 other firms on Oddschecker.
so it's a conspiracy then...
Nah - the fix is in. WR have put Barnes in charge. The hex ref.
If WR were actually a competent organisation the fix would involve one of the two Frenchies as ref, one as an AR and then probably Barnes as the other AR.
They've left too many variables on the table with just Barnes as the ref ... the ABs actually win the odd game with him in charge.
I know - Ireland have a worse record with him. He’s as popular as Ewan McKenna organizing a sing-song in the Lansdowne bar.
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@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.
Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.
They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.
You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.
Err
New Zealand 1/5 on
Ireland 5/1Just sayin like...
pfffft, sounds like another Paddy Power promotion to merk people.
Yes - Paddy Power and 16 other firms on Oddschecker.
so it's a conspiracy then...
Nah - the fix is in. WR have put Barnes in charge. The hex ref.
If WR were actually a competent organisation the fix would involve one of the two Frenchies as ref, one as an AR and then probably Barnes as the other AR.
They've left too many variables on the table with just Barnes as the ref ... the ABs actually win the odd game with him in charge.
I know - Ireland have a worse record with him. He’s as popular as Ewan McKenna organizing a sing-song in the Lansdowne bar.
Although, in our head to heads under him it's 1-1 (and our win was the thrashing in the Naki that he had little chance to influence) so despite the fact the deck is fully stacked, still advantage to Ireland.
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@rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Is there a source for Barnes being the referee?
He has a 6-10 record the ABs since Cardiff. Not particularly interested in his fare.
As @Chris-B asks what does 6-10 mean?
TBH I'd prefer him to the Frenchies. Less likely to do something crazy, though he does have a habit of pulling a howler out of the bag after being very good.
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@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@rotated What does your 6-10 mean? We've lost 6 times with him reffing?
Six losses to ten wins.
Losses:
France @ Cardiff 2007
Australia @ Brisbane 2011
South Africa @ Joburg 2014
Australia @ Sydney 2015
Australia @ Brisbane 2017
Ireland @ Dublin 2018Wins
Scotland @ Edinburgh 2008
Ireland @ New Plymouth 2010
France @ Auckland 2014
Wales @ Cardiff 2014
Argentina @ London 2015
Wales @ Auckland 2016
France @ Paris 2016
Australia @ Sydney 2017
Wales @ Cardiff 2017
Australia @ Auckland 2018In about three quarters of those wins the ABs trailed at half time or led by less than a penalty. Outside of McCaw or Carter not being on the team sheet I doubt there has been a bigger game changer on the AB winning record post 2007.
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Weather forecast looks shit. Is this a negative for us? The game slowing down will benefit the Irish but we are a pretty decent wet weather team as well.
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Might want to look at the stats of Nigel Owens instead - he's the ref.
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@antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Might want to look at the stats of Nigel Owens instead - he's the ref.
No need - he is a good ref.
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We also get Graham Hughes as TMO - he's excellent IMO. As good as Skeen is bad.
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@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
We avoid Barnes and Garces.
No complaints with Nigel Owens officiating of the All Blacks to date.
Wasn't Owens in charge against SA in SA when they bypassed protocol on a try decision when it screened at the ground?
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
We avoid Barnes and Garces.
No complaints with Nigel Owens officiating of the All Blacks to date.
Wasn't Owens in charge against SA in SA when they bypassed protocol on a try decision when it screened at the ground?
That was Clancy.
Owens had the Wellington test last year and one of the tests with Donald at 10 in 2009. Maybe one more Bledisloe loss in there somewhere?
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@rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
We avoid Barnes and Garces.
No complaints with Nigel Owens officiating of the All Blacks to date.
Wasn't Owens in charge against SA in SA when they bypassed protocol on a try decision when it screened at the ground?
That was Clancy.
Owens had the Wellington test last year and one of the tests with Donald at 10 in 2009. Maybe one more Bledisloe loss in there somewhere?
Clancy, the Irishman with the French name? Figures
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Nigel is a good appointment for us as far as I’m concerned,
He is one that tends to allow the game to flow more than most imo , I couldn’t be happier with that bit of news
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
We avoid Barnes and Garces.
No complaints with Nigel Owens officiating of the All Blacks to date.
Wasn't Owens in charge against SA in SA when they bypassed protocol on a try decision when it screened at the ground?
That was Clancy.
Owens had the Wellington test last year and one of the tests with Donald at 10 in 2009. Maybe one more Bledisloe loss in there somewhere?
Clancy, the Irishman with the French name? Figures
That would be ClancÄ›.
Can't get much more Irish than Clancy, except maybe O'Clancy.
Alain Rolland is the Irish ref with a French name.
