The new All Blacks Captain is......
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="559629" data-time="1455886245"><p>How many are in this leadership group? 7 guys in a leadership group when there is a squad of 28-30 seems like a lot.</p></blockquote>
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The leadership group during the Ted-Hansen eras has been about that size. Some have on field responsibilities, some off field. <br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.allblacks.com/News/17924/henry-reveals-the-three-tenets-to-all-blacks-success">http://www.allblacks.com/News/17924/henry-reveals-the-three-tenets-to-all-blacks-success</a> -
By all accounts Cane has been part of the leadership groups for a couple of seasons so he has been groomed to stay a long term AB
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mister G" data-cid="559623" data-time="1455882707"><p>Will he be the Moyes to Richie's Fergie.</p></blockquote>More like Taine Randell to Fitzpatrick. The difference being that Hansen has prepared for the void in experience at both captain and the team as a whole by having ready replacements with AB experience
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<p>Read will be (and has been) fine.</p>
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<p>Fricken February Hennie Pennies again (sigh)</p>
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The guy has serious head issues though. I think this could be a very short term appointment as if he has another decent head knock he's unlikely to be around (from a playing rugby perspective) that much longer. He may be lucky to make it through this year but fingers crossed!</p> -
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<p>The guy has serious head issues though. I think this could be a very short term appointment as if he has another decent head knock he's unlikely to be around (from a playing rugby perspective) that much longer. He may be lucky to make it through this year but fingers crossed!</p>
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<p>although remember that time Richie had had a few head knocks and had to retire....</p> -
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="560568" data-time="1456294821"><p>although remember that time Richie had had a few head knocks and had to retire....</p></blockquote>
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<p>I read an article about Jerry many years ago after the 2007 RWC, and he took that 1/4 final exit hard, and it affected his approach to the game.</p>
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<p>I read an article about Jerry many years ago after the 2007 RWC, and he took that 1/4 final exit hard, and it affected his approach to the game.</p>
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<p>....and in So'oialos case I think he just burnt out, too much fitness work which effected his physicalilty which showed when Steven Donald handed him off on the way to a try like he was Andrew Merhtens or even Ronan O'Gara.</p> -
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<p>I don't recall Richie's form dropping off like Read's did, leading many on here to suggest Read was looking gunshy.</p>
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<p>more years than fingers on MN5's right hand (even if he is a hillbilly with 6 fingers it is valid)</p>
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<p>more years than fingers on MN5's right hand (even if he is a hillbilly with 6 fingers it is valid)</p>
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<p>Someone from Whangarei calling someone from Wellington a hillbilly ? in what universe does that make sense ?</p>
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<p> :think:</p>
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<p>. He'll need to develop a better rapport with the refs.</p>
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<p>Yeah,</p>
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<p>Read looks to be doing a JC/So'oialo......both of them declined really quickly.</p>
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<p>Difference is Read is a much more multifacited player.</p>
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<p>Jerry & Rodney were good players, but they both leaned heaviliy on single areas. In Jerrys case it was his physicality close in, in Rodneys it was his engine. When Jerry had neck / shoulder issues he lost the physicality & the rest of his all round game, while good, wasn't anywhere near good enough to cover. Same when Rodney slowed down. When Rodney was top 3 to every fricking ruck for 80 minutes it didn't matter than he was short & lacked power in the carry. Because that one trait was a huge part of how the ABs played. Once that went you think "we could pick a genuinely lineout option instead"</p>
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<p>If you are picking a guy mostly because of just one trait, when he loses that one trait he's at risk. Read probably has 5 aspects to his game where he is head & shoulders above the next guy (Vito).</p>
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<p>Same with Richie, he maybe wasn't getting hands on the ball as much as Cane late on, but he was far better in the tight, carried better, tackled harder etc.</p> -
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<p>Difference is Read is a much more multifacited player.</p>
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<p>Jerry & Rodney were good players, but they both leaned heaviliy on single areas. In Jerrys case it was his physicality close in, in Rodneys it was his engine. When Jerry had neck / shoulder issues he lost the physicality & the rest of his all round game, while good, wasn't anywhere near good enough to cover. Same when Rodney slowed down. When Rodney was top 3 to every fricking ruck for 80 minutes it didn't matter than he was short & lacked power in the carry. Because that one trait was a huge part of how the ABs played. Once that went you think "we could pick a genuinely lineout option instead"</p>
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<p><strong>If you are picking a guy mostly because of just one trait, when he loses that one trait he's at risk. Read probably has 5 aspects to his game where he is head & shoulders above the next guy (Vito).</strong></p>
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<p>Same with Richie, he maybe wasn't getting hands on the ball as much as Cane late on, but he was far better in the tight, carried better, tackled harder etc.</p>
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<p>Although there were worrying signs last year that he was losing more than just one or two of those traits.</p>
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<p>Hopefully he's had a good break off season and will be rearing to go this year.</p>
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<p>Also, I'm not sure Richie carried harder or tackled harder than Cane - he was just all round a better player (he was the GOAT) - but you just identified two of Canes biggest strengths and one that Richie had to work hard on (even the GOAT has to work hard some times).</p>
