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  • MN5M Offline
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    #1352

    @virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @mariner4life said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @crucial no one gives a fuck what you think Tim. You're a bog-average cricketing footnote only selected as a PR exercise to try and get the mums of Australia to like the side again. Jog right the fuck on.

    It really goes back to your post about respect.

    Unfortunately, the way Australia beat seven shades of shit out of us and then lost to India - you can see why Tim might think this way.

    It sort of ignores lots of other stuff though - including that pretty much everything that could go wrong did on that tour. So hopefully, that tour was anomalous - and this forthcoming game gives us an opportunity to show that.

    And that this time we're the guys who've had better preparation, that hopefully we're not going to have any crucial injuries and we're not going to be playing pink ball cricket in Perth where we lose the toss, a quick bowler and start our innings under lights.....

    On the plus side, it must rankle the fuck out of Tim that we're in this game and he's not - and will rankle worse if we win.

    My prediction is that it will end up in a draw though. Not enough incentive to go all out for the win when the title can be shared.

    It would totally rankle him and OZ cricket that we are there and they arent. They have dominated the game the last 20 odd years, multiple ODI World Cup wins, record winning streaks etc. Now at the worse possible time they have a shit team held up by a single cheating fluff bunny and a couple of great bowlers.
    This WTC came about 10 years too late for them.

    I’d say three brilliant batsmen, three brilliant pace bowlers and a very good spinner but aside from them the team is shite.

    They will fucken arse rape the English in the ashes though.

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    Coach Gary Stead confirmed his final 15 names on Tuesday, for Friday night’s (9.30pm NZT) decider at the Ageas Bowl near Southampton, as Mitchell Santner, Daryl Mitchell, Doug Bracewell, Rachin Ravindra and Jacob Duffy were cut from the extended 20-man squad who beat England 1-0.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/125446931/new-zealand-vs-india-black-caps-cut-squad-as-ajaz-patel-colin-de-grandhomme-in-hot-seat

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    #1354

    Santner cut!

    Henry, Blundell and Young as reserves.

    Choice on CDG or Patel presumably based on weather/pitch/possibly toss

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    #1355

    @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Santner cut!

    Henry, Blundell and Young as reserves.

    Choice on CDG or Patel presumably based on weather/pitch/possibly toss

    I worry that CDG is underdone. If they pick him I'm happy to be proved wrong. At Lord's he got 0 and 9 with the bat, and didn't get any wickets

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    @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Santner cut!

    Henry, Blundell and Young as reserves.

    Choice on CDG or Patel presumably based on weather/pitch/possibly toss

    Pretty much. A possibility that both might play, as outlined above.

    I think they've got the XV spot on - though I wouldn't have minded Mitch Jr instead of CdG.

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  • G Offline
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    CdG is a fine no. 7 - if we want a specialist bat, fair enough, but an average of 36 at 7 is easily international class. I think his batting stats (SR 81.5) also reflect that his job is usually to go in and score quickly after the top 6 have put on sizeable score and they are angling for a declaration. The only reason not to pick him is bowling.

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    @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Cool. Tim Paine has given India the kiss of death.

    A bonus chance to put some egg on face.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/125445383/new-zealand-vs-india-australian-captain-tips-india-for-pretty-comfortable-win-over-black-caps

    WEll, given they did to us what we did to their super rugby teams over the last month, I'd be picking absolutely anybody over them in rugby too.

    So understand where he's coming from.

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    @majorrage and yet we thrashed the Indians just after they beat Tim Paine.
    Me thinks tim might have a bit of tunnel vision...

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    I certainly hope the nz cricket team aren't obsessing over minutae like the fern is🙂

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    Just in case anybody didn't already think the Walrus was a bit of a douche ..

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    @siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @majorrage and yet we thrashed the Indians just after they beat Tim Paine.
    Me thinks tim might have a bit of tunnel vision...

    The boys club looks out for the boys club.

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    @majorrage
    He really is obsessed.

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    @chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Santner cut!

    Henry, Blundell and Young as reserves.

    Choice on CDG or Patel presumably based on weather/pitch/possibly toss

    Pretty much. A possibility that both might play, as outlined above.

    I think they've got the XV spot on - though I wouldn't have minded Mitch Jr instead of CdG.

    Based on what ? I think @Godder has given some good reasons to pick CDGH.

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    @majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    Just in case anybody didn't already think the Walrus was a bit of a douche ..

    You’d think being a clueless inflammatory fluffybunny about Rugby would take up enough of his time, now he’s moved to Cricket too ? He must have excellent time management skills.

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  • mofitzy_M Offline
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    He trolls about NZ at Olympics and probably any other sport too (despite our undeniable per capita success). Obviously a kiwi bloke stole his girl at some point.

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    replied to MN5 on last edited by Chris B.
    #1367

    @mn5 I think Mitchell is a better batsman than Colin and I don't expect our 5th seamer to play a defining role.

    If we need a 5th seamer we're probably going to need an extra/better batsman more.

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    @godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    CdG is a fine no. 7 - if we want a specialist bat, fair enough, but an average of 36 at 7 is easily international class. I think his batting stats (SR 81.5) also reflect that his job is usually to go in and score quickly after the top 6 have put on sizeable score and they are angling for a declaration. The only reason not to pick him is bowling.

    My impression is that he is weak against a seaming ball and speed. Don’t have the data but “a very good flat track bully”. That said, it is when his bowling is most effective for me. The thought of dropping one of the top four seamers to fit in both CDG and Patel ( read that in the herald ) just seems wrong. Hope not.

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    #1369

    Dropping Wagner for CDG&Patel would be like dropping Sam Cane for a RWC semi

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    @siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @majorrage and yet we thrashed the Indians just after they beat Tim Paine.
    Me thinks tim might have a bit of tunnel vision...

    Turns out the Aussie cricket team much like their public only pay attention to what happens in international cricket during the 3 months a year where they are beating up on opposition in their own backyard

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    wrote on last edited by rotated
    #1371

    Not advocating for this, but those who have no issue with a five man tail playing Patel - why not play Henry instead?

    Is this pitch going to turn that much that we forego the new ball in the first innings or bet the farm bowling Patel at one end and rotating the other four quicks in the second innings?

    Another consideration is the toss - if Williamson is leaning towards bowling first (like the last two County games at the Rosebowl) then picking Patel is a bit of a defensive/hedge-your-bets type move.

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