Wallabies vs Springboks I
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@mariner4life said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
For all the talk of their physical pack, they don't exactly roll over you with the ball, the wallabies sat them down hard all night.
Wallabies pack at present is much more physical than historically. And we looked fitter than the Boks to boot.
Will have to watch the game again, but Rodda's name wasn't mentioned much, so assume he was in there doing the dirty work.
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If you're going to kick away almost all your possession, your chase and ability to compete and regather needs to be much better. As does your set piece. South Africa also suffered from some truly bizarre brain farts by players.
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@antipodean said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
If you're going to kick away almost all your possession, your chase and ability to compete and regather needs to be much better. As does your set piece. South Africa also suffered from some truly bizarre brain farts by players.
Offloads under pressure over the sideline were rubbish.
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Very happy with the win. A funny sort of a game, a real clash of styles.
I think the Boks game plan doesn't fit the amount of talent they have, especially in the backs. Guys like Am, Mapimpi, Le Roux, are purely there as kick chasers and it's such a waste. I found them very tough to watch, especially when they started launching kicks within 30m of our line.
We hung in well, though we were our own worst enemy at times. Folau Faingaa's YC was among the stupidest I've seen. Swinton was lucky not to see yellow as well.
Happy for Quade, happy for Rennie. It was a win we really needed to keep the momentum going from the France series. Now 2nd in the RC is a real possibility, which would be nice.
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@barbarian said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Folau Faingaa's YC was among the stupidest I've seen.
Only a matter of time. I said it was stupid on Twitter when he did it in SRAu and even Laurie Fisher was defending him.
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@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@barbarian said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Folau Faingaa's YC was among the stupidest I've seen.
Only a matter of time. I said it was stupid on Twitter when he did it in SRAu and even Laurie Fisher was defending him.
He seemed surprised himself that it was even a penalty. IIRC his response to Pearce was "that's shocking". A total lack of self-awareness.
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@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life it's really weird - like Aus is the SA kryptonite. For such a physical team, they just seem to struggle with the Australian style in Australia.
Big win for World Rugby though. SA suddenly don't look the behemoth they were over the last few years not playing
To be fair that lable only really relates to one game. Yes it was a RWC final and that was a great performance but it's not like they were dishing it out before that. We beat them comfortably in the group game and they just scraped by Wales in the Semi. The argument can also be made that England seriously blew their load in the other semifinal.
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
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@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@barbarian said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Folau Faingaa's YC was among the stupidest I've seen.
Only a matter of time. I said it was stupid on Twitter when he did it in SRAu and even Laurie Fisher was defending him.
He seemed surprised himself that it was even a penalty. IIRC his response to Pearce was "that's shocking". A total lack of self-awareness.
If I was Rennie I would put that segment on loop whilst making him do push-ups, and he can’t stop until he realised how dumb it was.
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@act-crusader said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@bovidae said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nta said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@barbarian said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Folau Faingaa's YC was among the stupidest I've seen.
Only a matter of time. I said it was stupid on Twitter when he did it in SRAu and even Laurie Fisher was defending him.
He seemed surprised himself that it was even a penalty. IIRC his response to Pearce was "that's shocking". A total lack of self-awareness.
If I was Rennie I would put that segment on loop whilst making him do push-ups, and he can’t stop until he realised how dumb it was.
He's going to get good at push ups.
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@rancid-schnitzel that's exactly why I was worried about this test. The Springboks never play well going in a test as the favourites. The same happened against the Lions. Now they are in the perfect position to hit back as underdogs.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life it's really weird - like Aus is the SA kryptonite. For such a physical team, they just seem to struggle with the Australian style in Australia.
Big win for World Rugby though. SA suddenly don't look the behemoth they were over the last few years not playing
To be fair that lable only really relates to one game. Yes it was a RWC final and that was a great performance but it's not like they were dishing it out before that. We beat them comfortably in the group game and they just scraped by Wales in the Semi. The argument can also be made that England seriously blew their load in the other semifinal.
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
They won the game that counted and good on them but so did England in 2003. How did they go when they toured here in 2004 again ?
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@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
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@tim said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Last two years couldn't have gone much worse for Gatland eh?
Assume the Chiefs will stick with Clayton McMillan?
What's his record with the Chiefs again? Has completely slipped my mind......
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@tim said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Last two years couldn't have gone much worse for Gatland eh?
Assume the Chiefs will stick with Clayton McMillan?
What's his record with the Chiefs again? Has completely slipped my mind......
Gah! You made me look. I had somehow completely forgotten about his awfulness
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@tim said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Last two years couldn't have gone much worse for Gatland eh?
Assume the Chiefs will stick with Clayton McMillan?
What's his record with the Chiefs again? Has completely slipped my mind......
The Chiefs came last I think. You are welcome.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
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@mn5 said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life it's really weird - like Aus is the SA kryptonite. For such a physical team, they just seem to struggle with the Australian style in Australia.
Big win for World Rugby though. SA suddenly don't look the behemoth they were over the last few years not playing
To be fair that lable only really relates to one game. Yes it was a RWC final and that was a great performance but it's not like they were dishing it out before that. We beat them comfortably in the group game and they just scraped by Wales in the Semi. The argument can also be made that England seriously blew their load in the other semifinal.
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
They won the game that counted and good on them but so did England in 2003. How did they go when they toured here in 2004 again?
Dad’s Army had got even older…
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@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Wallabies vs Springboks I:
Not saying that aren't a very good side but the way people have been fapping on about them you'd think they'd been this unstoppable dominant force. That is simply not true.
I phrased my words poorly - I meant they got perceived as more of a behemoth by not playing.
They were very good though. Saying we beat them easily in group play is a bit of a simplification - we had 5 minutes of magic (thanks Sevu), and that was enough to hold them off. They played really well in the Final in particular.
But, they were a good side, and beating the Lions was a good effort. But again - they haven't played since 2019, so you can look better and better as the flaws in other game plans get exposed.
Agreed. But point of order, I said comfortably not easily.
their forwards did some damage to us, same as in 2015. They are strong up front - but we pick smaller, more athletic ball players who can go 80 and help break games open
All good and well smacking us around up front but they only scored 13 points and I don't remember them looking particularly threatening. It was a comfortable win in the end, 13 points is never going to be enough in the modern game.
I expect they will seriously challenge us when we play them though, they are not the kind of team that can be easily blown away. We'll need to be accurate as they feed off teams mistakes (penalties and knock ons) and apply pressure through set piece.
