Jonathan Sexton's conduct
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@sparky said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
World Rugby HQ love Jonny Sexton and the boys in Green. Absolutely no surprise to me that he was. given such a gentle slap across the wrist.
We can expect the referees at the World Cup to give every 50:50 decision for the Irish as well.
Come on, let’s not get all GAGR around here eh?
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You could sympathise with the 2007 players and officials wanting to string Barns up by his ginga ballsack, but to the best of my knowledge none of them said a word to him. This is despite many of them having had their World Cup dreams destroyed forever. They showed restraint and class. And despite us being accused as whingers, I'd hate to see the response from certain other nations and/or individuals if the same thing happened.
This response is pissweak. I've always been sickened by the way soccer players act towards the ref and it will get that way in rugby if they don't crack down harder.
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@Bovidae said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
World Rugby's HQ is in Dublin so their decision was always going to be weak.
It wasn't a World Rugby decision. WR doesn't have jurisdiction in European Professional Club Rugby (ECPR) cases and it was a decision of an independent Disciplinary Committee.
Disciplinary decisions on behalf of the independent Disciplinary Committee - Johnny Sexton and Leinster Rugby | European Professional Club Rugby
Johnny Sexton suspended for three matches and Leinster Rugby fined £7500 with the amount suspended
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The fact they gave him a ban at all is surprising TBH, I expected him to get off without sanction, maybe a warning only.
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@taniwharugby In the decision they stated that his sanction was six weeks, but was reduced to three by his mitigation.
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@Tim said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
@taniwharugby In the decision they stated that his sanction was six weeks, but was reduced to three by his mitigation.
How on earth is there mitigation for that? The child he was with was holding a gun to his head?
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@Tim said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
@taniwharugby In the decision they stated that his sanction was six weeks, but was reduced to three by his mitigation.
Why is being a fluffybunny a mitigating factor?
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Fuck me days. Why do we always go through this fucking rigmarole every time mitigation gets mentioned either in rugby judiciary cases or actual judiciary cases. It's a standard part of sentencing/sanctioning.
Has he been done for this type of misconduct before? No? In which case, that's a mitigating factor.
He pleaded guilty = a further mitigating factor.
Read page 33 re mitigation if you get round to putting down the pitchforks.
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@Smudge said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
Fuck me days. Why do we always go through this fucking rigmarole every time mitigation gets mentioned either in rugby judiciary cases or actual judiciary cases. It's a standard part of sentencing/sanctioning.
Has he been done for this type of misconduct before? No? In which case, that's a mitigating factor.
He pleaded guilty = a further mitigating factor.
Read page 33 re mitigation if you get round to putting down the pitchforks.
Don't be a party pooper, this is no time for rationalism!
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@Tim although if he apologised would he really have been upset with the outcome?
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@taniwharugby said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
@Tim although if he apologised would he really have been upset with the outcome?
Is it really an apology if it's just for mitigation, and therefore is no longer a mitigating factor?
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@Smudge said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
Fuck me days. Why do we always go through this fucking rigmarole every time mitigation gets mentioned either in rugby judiciary cases or actual judiciary cases. It's a standard part of sentencing/sanctioning.
Has he been done for this type of misconduct before? No? In which case, that's a mitigating factor.
He pleaded guilty = a further mitigating factor.
Read page 33 re mitigation if you get round to putting down the pitchforks.
Some actions which have wide ranging, long term implications don't merit mitigation
Needs to be nipped in the bud, otherwise football ensues
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@MiketheSnow said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
@Smudge said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
Fuck me days. Why do we always go through this fucking rigmarole every time mitigation gets mentioned either in rugby judiciary cases or actual judiciary cases. It's a standard part of sentencing/sanctioning.
Has he been done for this type of misconduct before? No? In which case, that's a mitigating factor.
He pleaded guilty = a further mitigating factor.
Read page 33 re mitigation if you get round to putting down the pitchforks.
Some actions which have wide ranging, long term implications don't merit mitigation
Needs to be nipped in the bud, otherwise football ensues
Completely agree, though more for a wider discussion., which I’m thinking is your point.
Sexton is just playing the game, as many have done before. No surprises there or with the outcome.
Looking at that wider issue though, we all know that what goes on at the top level gets emulated all the way down the line. We have trouble getting enough refs as it is, they need to be a protected species from the top to the bottom.
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I don't think we need to whip him from Dublin to Galway for this - Tullamore is quite far enough.
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Totally agree. But it's RWC year and he's a key player. And that just wouldn't do, would it? An opportunity to send a message missed.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Jonathan Sexton's conduct:
Totally agree. But it's RWC year and he's a key player. And that just wouldn't do, would it? An opportunity to send a message missed.
It’s the judiciary. Their accuracy is up there with Imperial Stormtroopers.
