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  • MajorRageM Away
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    @Dodge said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    I'm genuinely surprised that it seems a few people think England have a hope against SA.

    They 100% genuinely, really, don't. Not a sliver.

    This. I can’t understand people rating our forwards with a hope in hell against the Boks. We’re not good enough outside of the pack to live on parity, let alone on the amount of shit back foot, going backwards ball we’ll have to live on. God forbid anyone knocks a ball on, our scrum is going to be marmalised

    Yep.

    Bear in mind I predicted Ireland & France to win this weekend.

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    As mentioned, ABs still not number 1, if the semis give NZ and Eng the W, we take #1 off Boks.
    World Rugby rankings
    1(3) South Africa 92.48
    2(4) New Zealand 90.91
    3(1) Ireland 90.57
    4(2) France 87.81
    5(6) England 84.03
    6(5) Scotland 83.43
    7(8) Argentina 83.07
    8(7) Wales 80.64
    9(9) Australia 77.48
    10(10) Fiji 76.38
    11(11) Italy 75.93
    12(12) Japan 74.27
    13(13) Portugal 72.78
    14(14) Georgia 72.68
    15(15) Samoa 72.23
    16(16) Tonga 71.57
    17(17) Uruguay 67.39
    18(18) USA 66.22
    19(19) Spain 64.05
    20(20) Romania 63.28

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    @Dodge said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    I don’t have a problem with the wider convos about consistency etc, more the attacking individual refs during game threads or writing off individual refs as useless.

    I should point out I’m not innocent of doing this myself, particularly live during the game. I just reckon it’s usually because I’m supporting one side and only seeing one side of these decisions so try and bite my tongue - sometimes more successfully than others

    I am guessing you don't read Super match threads. It's prevalent on there too.

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    @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Bones I also think that the ARs need to do a better job of assisting, whle the TMO needs to have thier remit amended.

    Assistant refs have been shithouse for as long as I can recall, I still have memories of Stuart Dickerson dragging play miles back for some minor or imagined foul play that allowed him the limelight for a few minutes more. I can't remember how it was back in the days they were called touch judges. But I seem to recall that at least offsides and forward passes were picked up

    Touchies used to just work out where the lineouts were and who's throw it was, and judge kicks at goal. Until sometime in the 80s when their roles expanded.

    I remember in school my mate explaining that if the ref was on the other side of the scrum you could just punch the opposing prop because the touchy wouldn't do anything about it.

    Not sure if that was true, I played for the second team, which was a lot more casual.

    100% true....the real smart one would get the locks to do and then even harder to see who threw it....simpler times

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    @Billy-Webb well written, I really feel for the Irish and French fans many who were saying "if we don't win this one we wont ever win".

    I guess I remember as an AB fan how that felt during the long, long drought from 1987 to 2011.

    Fiji and Wales certainly over-extended themselves are weren't far off the pace for going a step further.

    Fiji rugby looks bright, I hope they build on this success, the Dura in SR really seems to have given them a boost player retention wise.

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    @Windows97 i don't feel for them, at all really

    Yes, Ireland and France turned up with arguably their best ever teams, both in great form, and it was their time.

    But, funny thing about World Cups, the previous years mean jack shit, you need to get it done on the day. And i have seen the Rugby World openly and loudly revel in AB teams getting bundled out when they were supposed to win (2007 was huge), so, frankly, fuck 'em. Welcome to the pain of expectation.

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    @mariner4life yep, as much as I dont like the laser focus on the RWC, it is what it is, and the Boks play the game geared to winning it...

    that being said, as has been alluded to for the past few months, this has been Fozzies sole focus, while it doesnt sit well with most that we have lost so many records along the way, yet he has a pretty decent chance right now of getting his team to walk away with the lollies!

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    @taniwharugby I'v enever thought the World Cup determined the best team in the World, rather the best team at a certain style of rugby at a certain time. It does tend to have the best team win it, but not always.

    And i hate the focus on a four year cycle for it. I hate "sacrifices" made in the mythical pursuit of building for the World Cup. Every game on its merits.

    But that's just my view, and not shared by the rugby world, i know that.

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    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Windows97 i don't feel for them, at all really

    Yes, Ireland and France turned up with arguably their best ever teams, both in great form, and it was their time.

    But, funny thing about World Cups, the previous years mean jack shit, you need to get it done on the day. And i have seen the Rugby World openly and loudly revel in AB teams getting bundled out when they were supposed to win (2007 was huge), so, frankly, fuck 'em. Welcome to the pain of expectation.

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    Deserve?
    Oh Jonny, I'll give you a pass because you're probably exhausted, and definitely gutted. But that's not the word champ

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    Oh that is some great irony, if you think you deserve the ultimate send-off, you won't get it, that's really going to throw you mentally if you think you deserve to win

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    Strangely enough I think Jonny got exactly what he deserved.

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    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Windows97 i don't feel for them, at all really

    Yes, Ireland and France turned up with arguably their best ever teams, both in great form, and it was their time.

    But, funny thing about World Cups, the previous years mean jack shit, you need to get it done on the day. And i have seen the Rugby World openly and loudly revel in AB teams getting bundled out when they were supposed to win (2007 was huge), so, frankly, fuck 'em. Welcome to the pain of expectation.

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    Question: if we win the RWC, will Foster get knighted like Hansen and Henry?

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    @TeWaio said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    Question: if we win the RWC, will Foster get knighted like Hansen and Henry?

    Unlikely due to the potential embarrassment factor.

    “Arise Sir Ferret “. Then the fat sod can’t get up.

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    Based on the SF appointments it appears that the ref for the final will be either Barnes or Raynal.

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    Final in France, no French team = French ref?

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    @Bovidae said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    Based on the SF appointments it appears that the ref for the final will be either Barnes or Raynal.

    Generally the guy who has done the final has refereed right through the knockouts... the way I read it, is they had Barnes or O'Keeffe down to do the final, with Jaco Peyper as the contingency plan, but as he got injured, they now needed a new contingency for a NZ v SA final, and were not happy with Raynal last week, thus have brought Gardiner back in.

    The reason they have gone BOK over Barnes for this week, is because England are way more likely to lose than New Zealand so they expect Barnes to do the final.

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    @frugby

    I find it difficult to argue with anything you’ve said, but I really want to. Does that make any sense?

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