Grumpy Old Man
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@MajorRage it is quite amazing how song lyrics seem to get around censors, and just how some of these songs get airtime, particularly in today's cancel culture (I'm looking at WAP I think it is, and Kiss by Eminem which seem huge outliers)
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@MajorRage said in Grumpy Old Man:
I have a 9 year old daughter. She is into music that is pretty much so targeted at young girls. Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo & somebody called Bailey Spinn are the 3 that come to mind.
Taylor Swift aside, why do these musicians, who know young girls love them, insist on swearing so much on their albums? What are they actually trying to achieve? If you put Olivia Rodrigo on Spotify then play her Radio, almost every song has swearing in it. If you are doing this to try and target your music elsewhere, then you need to do a different genre of music! Not play kid friendly stuff, then add in the word fuck quite often to make you appear as something else.
Yes, I know that you can change the setting in Spotify & I know that Rodrigo has released "clean" versions of some her songs, but every kid knows how to get around these things. Besides, Rodrigos big song Vampire (which is awesome), the clean lyrics actually sound much better. It literally looks like she' put the word fuck in there, just to put in there.
It's fucking stupid.
Swearing in songs has been cool since forever.
I remember when car pooling for cricket back in the 80s and four of us kids piled into the car. My mates Dad always had the Who on the stereo and we’d all absolutely crack up when Roger Daltrey busted out “Who the fuck are you?”
We also thought that “I’m your Venus” was describing something else that sounded like Venus.
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@MajorRage said in Grumpy Old Man:
Whinge 2 for today.
That a picture of Travis Kelce with Taylor Swift is the photo the BBC is using for their article of the KC Chiefs vs the 49ers being in the Superbowl.
She. Isn't. The. Story.
She isn't the story, but you could almost guarantee that photo would double the click-through rate on that story.
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@MajorRage said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MN5 the who weren’t writing songs clearly targeted at young girls.
That’s the rant.
Well they certainly rooted enough of them so I’d say they did indirectly at the very least
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@Smudge said in Grumpy Old Man:
@MajorRage said in Grumpy Old Man:
Whinge 2 for today.
That a picture of Travis Kelce with Taylor Swift is the photo the BBC is using for their article of the KC Chiefs vs the 49ers being in the Superbowl.
She. Isn't. The. Story.
She isn't the story, but you could almost guarantee that photo would double the click-through rate on that story.
Up until she started dating him, I'd never heard of him. And I'm not a Swift fan.
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The swearing stuff is so overblown, unless it's really explicit stuff. I remember when my boy was about 6, a couple of older kids decided to pick on him and his mate during lunch time, spitting at them and pushing them around. My boy ended up telling them 'F off'. When the teachers were told about it, the two older kids said my boy swore at them, and the school seemed to deem his offence equally as bad as the two older kids, and just described it as an 'unsavory incident'. I was fucking fuming, met with the deputy principle, and said to her that his use of the F word was entirely appropriate, and is in fact is why it exists in our language, and that I would not be disciplining him in any way, shape or form as a result.
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In support of @MajorRage
Am not a prude but I'm not a fan of gratuitous, or voluminous (not sure if tge right word, but am sure you get what I mean) swearing.
Unnecessary and often detracts from the point you're making.
Am in full agreement with the Major re song lyrics.
Cut it back. You're not cool and edgy. Everybody does it. Be better and use better words. It's cooler.
A couple of swearing anecdotes:
Back in the day I worked in a warehouse (not Warehouse) as a storeman. we came to the realisation that our language was atrocious. Every second word. Made a real effort (swear jar etc) and everything just sounded nicer. Was just unnecessary.
Second. Heard an interview recently. Can't remember who, but some arrogant business dude. Can't have been on normal radio as he continually dropped the f-bomb. It gave me the impression that he was trying to show how cool and superior he was because he had a special privilege to be allowed to swear. But it really detracted from his message. If he was really cool his words would gave sufficient gravitas without the swearing.
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As for @MajorRage 's GOM on Taytay.
She IS the story. The NFL is secondary. As much as us sports fans gate it.
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I swear more on the Fern than I do in real life. Not sure why, I just do, but in real life my swearing is usually restricted to watching rugby.
But not sure where I stand on swearing in songs. I'm more annoyed with musicians and actors who promote smoking and vaping.
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@voodoo said in Grumpy Old Man:
@dogmeat said in Grumpy Old Man:
I am happy to be in the lounge an hour or a bit more before my flight is called, but you're still just killing time.
Fortunately, I can get into any Star Alliance lounge but 4 hours is ridiculous.
I've been lucky enough to have access to the Qantas First Class Lounge for the last 10 years or so (will expire for good 30 April this year...
) - I could spend all day in that place, the food is top notch, the booze exceptional, and I was typically there waiting for a long haul work flight with no kids around...absolute bliss!
So that explains all the layabouts in the lounges-escaping the kids!
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@booboo said in Grumpy Old Man:
In support of @MajorRage
Am not a prude but I'm not a fan of gratuitous, or voluminous (not sure if tge right word, but am sure you get what I mean) swearing.
Unnecessary and often detracts from the point you're making.
Am in full agreement with the Major re song lyrics.
Cut it back. You're not cool and edgy. Everybody does it. Be better and use better words. It's cooler.
A couple of swearing anecdotes:
Back in the day I worked in a warehouse (not Warehouse) as a storeman. we came to the realisation that our language was atrocious. Every second word. Made a real effort (swear jar etc) and everything just sounded nicer. Was just unnecessary.
Second. Heard an interview recently. Can't remember who, but some arrogant business dude. Can't have been on normal radio as he continually dropped the f-bomb. It gave me the impression that he was trying to show how cool and superior he was because he had a special privilege to be allowed to swear. But it really detracted from his message. If he was really cool his words would gave sufficient gravitas without the swearing.
I always laugh, when my kids were about 3 and 5 my daughter was annoying son, he turned to her and said go away , you are a ct. I was gobsmacked and staerted to give him a bollocking, and until I realised he had heard it at school, and because I tried not to swear around kids and women, he had no idea it was he was saying , I explained etc, and so never did it again (in our hearing).
My daughter had rules for her kids no swearing, but when you got to 10 (or 12) you were old enough to use words like bugger and bloody, but no more, she cracked up how many time her second son used both words on his birthday, and never really heard them again as it was no big deal he thought.
I will say I find it pretty crap (I probably old fashioned) when people think it's funny to have words like f* on a tshirt or car sticker. I really wonder if they are so needy for attention etc that they ignore decency?