Whisky / Whiskey
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@taniwharugby said in Whisky / Whiskey:
Experts describe it as the holy grail of whiskies, because of the combination of its rarity, vintage and unique artwork.
I'd prefer the holy grail of whiskies to be based on taste...
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If in Inverness for the night I can recommend this place https://www.themaltroom.co.uk/ for a tipple or two. The bar staff were obviously passionate about their offerings and hit the nail on the head with a recommendation for me.
With reference to the post above they were saying just how silly the collecting/investing side of things is getting with distilleries hardly even caring what they are bottling as 'special' because it is simply the rarity/bottle/label that counts and people are lining up to pay stupid money for something they never even taste.As a side note, just down the road is the Black Isle Bar. Decent beer (their own organic plus others), great pizzas and cheap rooms above the bar so you don't have to stumble far afterwards.
As far as I could tell, apart from these two places there was no other point in going to Inverness.
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@kruse said in Whisky / Whiskey:
@MajorRage
Just spent this Friday evening at a bar with a little over 200 wikkies.. (down to about 140 if you ignore the bourbons and irish... which you should, and I did)- tried that Kilchoman you've got there... yeah, tasty. All the others... tried them before, and yep, that's a fucking nice little island I need to visit.
Just FYI, there’s a curry house in Napier that hosts a Whiskey Club. They’ve got about 400 available, 300 of them single malts / single grains, 60-odd blended and the rest American and Irish. Most of the good ones are in the $15-30 range for a dram. Several are in the hundreds though.
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@hooroo said in Whisky / Whiskey:
@taniwharugby said in Whisky / Whiskey:
so you buy this; it sits on a shelf for people to go wow you are so rich, or do you drink it?
What if you choose the former then one day knock it off the shelf, it smashes...sure you get insurance but you never got to taste....
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-45731647
Bottle of whisky sold for world record £848,000
The world's most expensive bottle of whisky has been sold for £848,000 at auction in Edinburgh.
The Macallan Valerio Adami 1926 60-year-old went under the hammer at Bonhams Whisky Sale.
The whisky, which was in a vat for 60 years from 1926 then bottled, fetched £700,000 plus a £148,000 sales premium.
Experts describe it as the holy grail of whiskies, because of the combination of its rarity, vintage and unique artwork.
Another bottle of The Macallan Valerio Adami 1926 was sold at Bonhams Hong Kong in May this year for a then world record £814,081 (HK$8,636,250).
Macallan commissioned pop artists Peter Blake and Valerio Adami to design labels for a limited edition of 24 bottles -12 Adami and 12 of Blake.
The latest bottle to be sold came in a specially-commissioned cabinet, or tantalus. Its previous owner bought it direct from the Macallan distillery for an undisclosed sum in 1994.
Although 12 bottles of The Macallan Valerio Adami 1926 were produced, it is not known how many of them still exist.
One is said to have been destroyed in an earthquake in Japan in 2011, and it is believed at least one of them has been opened and consumed.
If I can afford $1.6m NZD on a drink, I am damn well drinking it. May wait for an event but it's getting polished either way
Right on!
Then decant a bottle of Johnnie Walker Red Label back into the old bottle and sit it on the shelf for people to go "Wow you are so rich....".
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Bump. Currently working my way through a bottle of Bulleit Bourbon Frontier Whiskey. Better than I thought it would be: spicy and light. Good for the price.
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@antipodean said in Whisky / Whiskey:
Bump. Currently working my way through a bottle of Bulleit Bourbon Frontier Whiskey. Better than I thought it would be: spicy and light. Good for the price.
Yum, I love bourbon (Not neat or only with ice) but I plays havoc with me the next day.
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@Hooroo Never got into Bourbon, always tastes a little sweet to me. Maybe because I've only tasted the usual suspects though?
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@Catogrande said in Whisky / Whiskey:
@Hooroo Never got into Bourbon, always tastes a little sweet to me. Maybe because I've only tasted the usual suspects though?
I think that is why I like it? I don't have a sweet tooth but have always struggled with Whisky's but not so much with bourbon
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@antipodean said in Whisky / Whiskey:
Bump. Currently working my way through a bottle of Bulleit Bourbon Frontier Whiskey. Better than I thought it would be: spicy and light. Good for the price.
Makers Mark cask strength is the nicest drop of any type of whiskey I’ve ever had. A quality bourbon is the nuts.
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@MajorRage I Just finished my MM last week...only Drambuie left in the cupboard, might need to do an essential online order!
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Was looking for a Whisky thread and found it and the last post was 5 years ago in that thread so I'll just add it here.
As we were drinking, I thought I'd just do a quick Google search on each of the whiskies we were drinking to get some tasting notes.
When I looked up the two Hibiki's, I was blown away. As both are discontinued and in short supply, the prices have gone up to just stupid levels.
The 12 year old, if you can find it in stock, sells for between $800 to $1,200.
The 17 year old sells for between $1,300 and $2,000.
I literally had no idea of the value of these bottles and used to just take a wee dram of either every so often whenever the urge for a whisky struck and would rotate it will all the others in my collection.
This is my last pour of each of these for quite some time to come. Will now be saved for only the most special of occasions.
But no regrets in sharing this with my mate.
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@roninwc the Ardbeg Ardbog looks very interesting.
Some months ago I wistfully considered a self-guided Scottish highlands drive by drinking and castle tour as Islay and the others looked rather scenic..
Not a great drinker of whisky/ey (and don't know how you can intersperse that with Yarra wineries) but your collection looks tasty. Do you drink neat or on the rocks? -
@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@roninwc the Ardbeg Ardbog looks very interesting.
Some months ago I wistfully considered a self-guided Scottish highlands drive by drinking and castle tour as Islay and the others looked rather scenic..
Not a great drinker of whisky/ey (and don't know how you can intersperse that with Yarra wineries) but your collection looks tasty. Do you drink neat or on the rocks?@nostrildamus the same, something on my bucket list of things to do.
The Ardbog is a very interesting whisky. Initially on the nose you get a fair bit of smoke and peat, next comes that iodine smell then after it's been in the glass a bit, you start getting all the more subtle components coming through. It was the same when drinking, the strong initial taste of peat and smoke with a hefty dose of iodine but then comes a real complex flavour.
How we normally drink is let it sit in the glass a bit immediately after pouring while gently moving it around in the glass. Don't swirl like a wine, much more gentle to open up the aromas and taste. First taste is always straight, no ice or water to start to get that raw flavour. But after a couple of good sips, use just a tiny dash of a good pure water.
For the Ardbog, the addition of just a small dash of water opened up the whisky and it became far more complex in flavour. The smoke and peat went into the background and there was some spice, citrus and caramel flavour. A really well balanced whisky, and it should be for $550-600. At 52.1 % ABV it was very warming and the alcohol was only subtle in the background after the dash of water.
The Octomore 10.3 is also a really interesting whisky, especially everything used to make it comes from Islay. The barley used to make the malt is grown on a farm just up the road from the distillery. The peat and everything else used in the process is local to Islay. Octomores are usually considered a peat bomb but I have to say it was really well balanced and at 61.3% ABV there is no doubts it's a beast. But again like the Ardbog, very complex in smell and flavour and the alcohol faded into the background again with the addition of a tiny dash of water.
We enjoyed both a great deal and couldn't really decide on which we preferred so it took a few more tastings to call it a tie.
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@roninwc said in Beer thread:
@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@roninwc the Ardbeg Ardbog looks very interesting.
Some months ago I wistfully considered a self-guided Scottish highlands drive by drinking and castle tour as Islay and the others looked rather scenic..
Not a great drinker of whisky/ey (and don't know how you can intersperse that with Yarra wineries) but your collection looks tasty. Do you drink neat or on the rocks?@nostrildamus the same, something on my bucket list of things to do.
The Ardbog is a very interesting whisky. Initially on the nose you get a fair bit of smoke and peat, next comes that iodine smell then after it's been in the glass a bit, you start getting all the more subtle components coming through. It was the same when drinking, the strong initial taste of peat and smoke with a hefty dose of iodine but then comes a real complex flavour.
How we normally drink is let it sit in the glass a bit immediately after pouring while gently moving it around in the glass. Don't swirl like a wine, much more gentle to open up the aromas and taste. First taste is always straight, no ice or water to start to get that raw flavour. But after a couple of good sips, use just a tiny dash of a good pure water.
For the Ardbog, the addition of just a small dash of water opened up the whisky and it became far more complex in flavour. The smoke and peat went into the background and there was some spice, citrus and caramel flavour. A really well balanced whisky, and it should be for $550-600. At 52.1 % ABV it was very warming and the alcohol was only subtle in the background after the dash of water.
The Octomore 10.3 is also a really interesting whisky, especially everything used to make it comes from Islay. The barley used to make the malt is grown on a farm just up the road from the distillery. The peat and everything else used in the process is local to Islay. Octomores are usually considered a peat bomb but I have to say it was really well balanced and at 61.3% ABV there is no doubts it's a beast. But again like the Ardbog, very complex in smell and flavour and the alcohol faded into the background again with the addition of a tiny dash of water.
We enjoyed both a great deal and couldn't really decide on which we preferred so it took a few more tastings to call it a tie.
Whisky piston wristed gibbons are basically just beer piston wristed gibbons with more money
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@mn5 said in Beer thread:
@roninwc said in Beer thread:
@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@roninwc the Ardbeg Ardbog looks very interesting.
Some months ago I wistfully considered a self-guided Scottish highlands drive by drinking and castle tour as Islay and the others looked rather scenic..
Not a great drinker of whisky/ey (and don't know how you can intersperse that with Yarra wineries) but your collection looks tasty. Do you drink neat or on the rocks?@nostrildamus the same, something on my bucket list of things to do.
The Ardbog is a very interesting whisky. Initially on the nose you get a fair bit of smoke and peat, next comes that iodine smell then after it's been in the glass a bit, you start getting all the more subtle components coming through. It was the same when drinking, the strong initial taste of peat and smoke with a hefty dose of iodine but then comes a real complex flavour.
How we normally drink is let it sit in the glass a bit immediately after pouring while gently moving it around in the glass. Don't swirl like a wine, much more gentle to open up the aromas and taste. First taste is always straight, no ice or water to start to get that raw flavour. But after a couple of good sips, use just a tiny dash of a good pure water.
For the Ardbog, the addition of just a small dash of water opened up the whisky and it became far more complex in flavour. The smoke and peat went into the background and there was some spice, citrus and caramel flavour. A really well balanced whisky, and it should be for $550-600. At 52.1 % ABV it was very warming and the alcohol was only subtle in the background after the dash of water.
The Octomore 10.3 is also a really interesting whisky, especially everything used to make it comes from Islay. The barley used to make the malt is grown on a farm just up the road from the distillery. The peat and everything else used in the process is local to Islay. Octomores are usually considered a peat bomb but I have to say it was really well balanced and at 61.3% ABV there is no doubts it's a beast. But again like the Ardbog, very complex in smell and flavour and the alcohol faded into the background again with the addition of a tiny dash of water.
We enjoyed both a great deal and couldn't really decide on which we preferred so it took a few more tastings to call it a tie.
Whisky piston wristed gibbons are basically just beer piston wristed gibbons with more money
And if you are both?
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@roninwc said in Beer thread:
@mn5 said in Beer thread:
@roninwc said in Beer thread:
@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@roninwc the Ardbeg Ardbog looks very interesting.
Some months ago I wistfully considered a self-guided Scottish highlands drive by drinking and castle tour as Islay and the others looked rather scenic..
Not a great drinker of whisky/ey (and don't know how you can intersperse that with Yarra wineries) but your collection looks tasty. Do you drink neat or on the rocks?@nostrildamus the same, something on my bucket list of things to do.
The Ardbog is a very interesting whisky. Initially on the nose you get a fair bit of smoke and peat, next comes that iodine smell then after it's been in the glass a bit, you start getting all the more subtle components coming through. It was the same when drinking, the strong initial taste of peat and smoke with a hefty dose of iodine but then comes a real complex flavour.
How we normally drink is let it sit in the glass a bit immediately after pouring while gently moving it around in the glass. Don't swirl like a wine, much more gentle to open up the aromas and taste. First taste is always straight, no ice or water to start to get that raw flavour. But after a couple of good sips, use just a tiny dash of a good pure water.
For the Ardbog, the addition of just a small dash of water opened up the whisky and it became far more complex in flavour. The smoke and peat went into the background and there was some spice, citrus and caramel flavour. A really well balanced whisky, and it should be for $550-600. At 52.1 % ABV it was very warming and the alcohol was only subtle in the background after the dash of water.
The Octomore 10.3 is also a really interesting whisky, especially everything used to make it comes from Islay. The barley used to make the malt is grown on a farm just up the road from the distillery. The peat and everything else used in the process is local to Islay. Octomores are usually considered a peat bomb but I have to say it was really well balanced and at 61.3% ABV there is no doubts it's a beast. But again like the Ardbog, very complex in smell and flavour and the alcohol faded into the background again with the addition of a tiny dash of water.
We enjoyed both a great deal and couldn't really decide on which we preferred so it took a few more tastings to call it a tie.
Whisky piston wristed gibbons are basically just beer piston wristed gibbons with more money
And if you are both?
Haha, I hate cheap whisky but I fucken love a good single malt. The other half and I have a nice tradition of ending an evening out with a single malt for me ( generally laphroig ) and a baileys for her.
I have been invited to a couple of whisky tastings, I really must go especially now the weather is getting colder.
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@roninwc said in Whisky / Whiskey:
Was looking for a Whisky thread and found it and the last post was 5 years ago in that thread so I'll just add it here.
Only a year, the first post was five years ago
The Octomore 10.3 is also a really interesting whisky, especially everything used to make it comes from Islay. The barley used to make the malt is grown on a farm just up the road from the distillery. The peat and everything else used in the process is local to Islay. Octomores are usually considered a peat bomb but I have to say it was really well balanced and at 61.3% ABV there is no doubts it's a beast.
I had the 7.1 a couple of years ago and that was interesting but a little hard to drink (208ppm!)
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@mn5 said in Whisky / Whiskey:
@roninwc said in Beer thread:
@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@roninwc the Ardbeg Ardbog looks very interesting.
Some months ago I wistfully considered a self-guided Scottish highlands drive by drinking and castle tour as Islay and the others looked rather scenic..
Not a great drinker of whisky/ey (and don't know how you can intersperse that with Yarra wineries) but your collection looks tasty. Do you drink neat or on the rocks?@nostrildamus the same, something on my bucket list of things to do.
The Ardbog is a very interesting whisky. Initially on the nose you get a fair bit of smoke and peat, next comes that iodine smell then after it's been in the glass a bit, you start getting all the more subtle components coming through. It was the same when drinking, the strong initial taste of peat and smoke with a hefty dose of iodine but then comes a real complex flavour.
How we normally drink is let it sit in the glass a bit immediately after pouring while gently moving it around in the glass. Don't swirl like a wine, much more gentle to open up the aromas and taste. First taste is always straight, no ice or water to start to get that raw flavour. But after a couple of good sips, use just a tiny dash of a good pure water.
For the Ardbog, the addition of just a small dash of water opened up the whisky and it became far more complex in flavour. The smoke and peat went into the background and there was some spice, citrus and caramel flavour. A really well balanced whisky, and it should be for $550-600. At 52.1 % ABV it was very warming and the alcohol was only subtle in the background after the dash of water.
The Octomore 10.3 is also a really interesting whisky, especially everything used to make it comes from Islay. The barley used to make the malt is grown on a farm just up the road from the distillery. The peat and everything else used in the process is local to Islay. Octomores are usually considered a peat bomb but I have to say it was really well balanced and at 61.3% ABV there is no doubts it's a beast. But again like the Ardbog, very complex in smell and flavour and the alcohol faded into the background again with the addition of a tiny dash of water.
We enjoyed both a great deal and couldn't really decide on which we preferred so it took a few more tastings to call it a tie.
Whisky piston wristed gibbons are basically just beer piston wristed gibbons with more money
Dunno about that. Having visited quite a few distilleries in Islay & a fair bit of time in Whisky shops in Edinburgh, they all say their best products are the standard ones. The more expensive ones are because they are rare, not because they are better.
To quote one of the shop owners "the expensive ones are only so that Japanese & Chinese guys can tell their friends how much their whisky is worth, there is no reason for any real whisky drinker to touch them. They aren't better, they are usually much worse".
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@majorrage said in Whisky / Whiskey:
@mn5 said in Whisky / Whiskey:
@roninwc said in Beer thread:
@nostrildamus said in Beer thread:
@roninwc the Ardbeg Ardbog looks very interesting.
Some months ago I wistfully considered a self-guided Scottish highlands drive by drinking and castle tour as Islay and the others looked rather scenic..
Not a great drinker of whisky/ey (and don't know how you can intersperse that with Yarra wineries) but your collection looks tasty. Do you drink neat or on the rocks?@nostrildamus the same, something on my bucket list of things to do.
The Ardbog is a very interesting whisky. Initially on the nose you get a fair bit of smoke and peat, next comes that iodine smell then after it's been in the glass a bit, you start getting all the more subtle components coming through. It was the same when drinking, the strong initial taste of peat and smoke with a hefty dose of iodine but then comes a real complex flavour.
How we normally drink is let it sit in the glass a bit immediately after pouring while gently moving it around in the glass. Don't swirl like a wine, much more gentle to open up the aromas and taste. First taste is always straight, no ice or water to start to get that raw flavour. But after a couple of good sips, use just a tiny dash of a good pure water.
For the Ardbog, the addition of just a small dash of water opened up the whisky and it became far more complex in flavour. The smoke and peat went into the background and there was some spice, citrus and caramel flavour. A really well balanced whisky, and it should be for $550-600. At 52.1 % ABV it was very warming and the alcohol was only subtle in the background after the dash of water.
The Octomore 10.3 is also a really interesting whisky, especially everything used to make it comes from Islay. The barley used to make the malt is grown on a farm just up the road from the distillery. The peat and everything else used in the process is local to Islay. Octomores are usually considered a peat bomb but I have to say it was really well balanced and at 61.3% ABV there is no doubts it's a beast. But again like the Ardbog, very complex in smell and flavour and the alcohol faded into the background again with the addition of a tiny dash of water.
We enjoyed both a great deal and couldn't really decide on which we preferred so it took a few more tastings to call it a tie.
Whisky piston wristed gibbons are basically just beer piston wristed gibbons with more money
Dunno about that. Having visited quite a few distilleries in Islay & a fair bit of time in Whisky shops in Edinburgh, they all say their best products are the standard ones. The more expensive ones are because they are rare, not because they are better.
To quote one of the shop owners "the expensive ones are only so that Japanese & Chinese guys can tell their friends how much their whisky is worth, there is no reason for any real whisky drinker to touch them. They aren't better, they are usually much worse".
Half the time they could put cold tea in the bottle cos the collector’s never open it.
