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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    @MN5 said in Movie review thread...:

    @Kruse said in Movie review thread...:

    @MN5 said in Movie review thread...:

    How did/does it make sense ?

    I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….

    Simplicity for movies...
    Saruman's the baddie in TheTwoTowers.
    Sauron's the baddie in ReturnOfTheKing
    It is a massive shame the it meant they couldn't have the Scouring of the Shire in place of the endless back-slapping hobbit-pillow-fighting saccharine multiple-endings, but... it makes sense.
    Like the cutting of Tom whatever-his-name-was.

    Audiences couldn’t handle the fact there could be another baddie who was in cahoots with the main one ?

    I liked how Saruman met his end in the book, it would have worked on screen and was annoyed at the Hobbit circle jerk.

    Tom Bombadil was not missed though. Boring as fuck and pointless.

    The heart core purists were apparently enraged Tom wasn't included but I was absolutely stoked. A bizarre character who was rightly cut from the film.

    I'm thinking having two baddies with very similar names (well at least starting in S) may have confused some people.

    If there is a quibble, we don't really get much info on wtf Sauron is. But we get waaaay too much info in that abomination of a new series.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Movie review thread...:

    @MN5 said in Movie review thread...:

    @Kruse said in Movie review thread...:

    @MN5 said in Movie review thread...:

    How did/does it make sense ?

    I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….

    Simplicity for movies...
    Saruman's the baddie in TheTwoTowers.
    Sauron's the baddie in ReturnOfTheKing
    It is a massive shame the it meant they couldn't have the Scouring of the Shire in place of the endless back-slapping hobbit-pillow-fighting saccharine multiple-endings, but... it makes sense.
    Like the cutting of Tom whatever-his-name-was.

    Audiences couldn’t handle the fact there could be another baddie who was in cahoots with the main one ?

    I liked how Saruman met his end in the book, it would have worked on screen and was annoyed at the Hobbit circle jerk.

    Tom Bombadil was not missed though. Boring as fuck and pointless.

    The heart core purists were apparently enraged Tom wasn't included but I was absolutely stoked. A bizarre character who was rightly cut from the film.

    I'm thinking having two baddies with very similar names (well at least starting in S) may have confused some people.

    If there is a quibble, we don't really get much info on wtf Sauron is. But we get waaaay too much info in that abomination of a new series.

    I remember scrolling through one of those nerdy encyclopedias about Middle Earth back in the day. Apparently Tom Bombadil was really powerful and immortal. But yeah, he did FUCK ALL in the story. Utterly pointless.

    I’m still not buying the whole Sauron/Saruman thing being too confusing. One was an old wizard, the other was an angry looking eye. How is that confusing ?

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    @MN5 said in Movie review thread...:

    I’m still not buying the whole Sauron/Saruman thing being too confusing. One was an old wizard, the other was an angry looking eye. How is that confusing ?

    Wasn't Sauron when Saruman bent over?

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    Obviously if you went anti fern and read the article, your know that it was about the flow of the movies, nothing to do with two bad guys being tricky for audiences

    The problem is that the sequence was originally shot for The Two Towers, as it is in the book. Since The Two Towers couldn’t sustain a seven-minute 'wrap’ after Helm’s Deep, we thought it would be a good idea to save it for the beginning of the Return of the King,” he told Ain’t It Cool News back in 2003.

    “The trouble is, when we viewed various ROTK cuts over the last few weeks, it feels like the first scenes are wrapping last year’s movie, instead of starting the new one. We felt it got Return Of The King off to an uncertain beginning, since Saruman plays no role in the events of ROTK (we don’t have the Scouring later, as the book does), yet we dwell in Isengard for quite a long time before our new story kicks off.

    “We reluctantly made the decision to save this sequence for the DVD. The choice was made on the basis that most people will assume that Saruman was vanquished by the Helm’s Deep events, and Ent attack. We can now crack straight into setting up the narrative tension of ROTK, which features Sauron as the villain.”

    Tom wasn't missed, even by me as a Tolkien nerd. But scouring of the Shire was, that is a proper ending to the series.

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    @Machpants said in Movie review thread...:

    Obviously if you went anti fern and read the article, your know that it was about the flow of the movies, nothing to do with two bad guys being tricky for audiences

    The problem is that the sequence was originally shot for The Two Towers, as it is in the book. Since The Two Towers couldn’t sustain a seven-minute 'wrap’ after Helm’s Deep, we thought it would be a good idea to save it for the beginning of the Return of the King,” he told Ain’t It Cool News back in 2003.

    “The trouble is, when we viewed various ROTK cuts over the last few weeks, it feels like the first scenes are wrapping last year’s movie, instead of starting the new one. We felt it got Return Of The King off to an uncertain beginning, since Saruman plays no role in the events of ROTK (we don’t have the Scouring later, as the book does), yet we dwell in Isengard for quite a long time before our new story kicks off.

    “We reluctantly made the decision to save this sequence for the DVD. The choice was made on the basis that most people will assume that Saruman was vanquished by the Helm’s Deep events, and Ent attack. We can now crack straight into setting up the narrative tension of ROTK, which features Sauron as the villain.”

    Tom wasn't missed, even by me as a Tolkien nerd. But scouring of the Shire was, that is a proper ending to the series.

    Yeah is that where Saruman was behind the scenes and causing trouble after he’d lost his powers ?

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    Watched Die Hard 2 as a family Xmas movie last night. May not be as good as DH1 but its still a great watch. Willis is excellent, lots of body count and gun play to keep young and old entertained. We might hit DH3 tonight

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    Jurassic Park

    Finally got around to watching this. Even now the quality of the dinosaur models, animatronics and green screen is top notch.

    The development of suspense is really well done, but overused. The movie feels too long as a result.

    I can't think of a director that does movies with kids better than Spielberg.

    That said, it reaffirms my belief that kids ruin everything.

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    The Day After Tomorrow

    Easily the dumbest big budget movie I can recall watching. The whole thing is like some purple haired social studies undergrad tried to write a post grad science paper. Or document Al Gore's wet dreams.

    Either way it's catastrophically stupid.

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    @antipodean said in Movie review thread...:

    The Day After Tomorrow

    Easily the dumbest big budget movie I can recall watching. The whole thing is like some purple haired social studies undergrad tried to write a post grad science paper. Or document Al Gore's wet dreams.

    Either way it's catastrophically stupid.

    I’m sure its not as bad as Armageddon

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    I enjoyed D after T, and I love Armageddon. Jurassic Park also quality

    The new Eddie Murphy Xmas movie was surprisingly watchable - that man just does not age.

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    So have any of you Snyder fans actually watched Star Wars Firefly Seven Samurai/The Magnificent Seven Rebel Moon yet?

    Watched it, it's not very good, but better than his superhero stuff.

    The man needs a writer and dog collar that zaps him every time he adds a long unnecessary slow mo. Without the slow mos this movie would be a tight 90 minutes.

    The cast range from pretty good (the main chick) to average (the main baddie, the other main baddie, the farmer mate) and to we have no idea as they're not fleshed out (every other character in the Magnificent Seven team).

    So a 5 1/2 out of 10 for me - which for a Snyder film for me is basically an 8/10. 😉

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    @canefan said in Movie review thread...:

    @Tim said in Movie review thread...:

    Thinking about investing in some art.

    s-l1600.jpg

    You're a funny guy Tim, that's why I'll kill you last

    Are you telling the truth?

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    @MajorRage said in Movie review thread...:

    @canefan said in Movie review thread...:

    @Tim said in Movie review thread...:

    Thinking about investing in some art.

    s-l1600.jpg

    You're a funny guy Tim, that's why I'll kill you last

    Are you telling the truth?

    I lied

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    @Nepia Rebel Moon looked like a poor man's star wars with shades of several other Sci fi movies and a touch of Harry Potter.

    I watched Silent Night, which was a poor mans John Wick / Nobody...seems the gang bangers at the centre of the film graduated from the same marksmanship school as the storm troopers of Star Wars.

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    @taniwharugby said in Movie review thread...:

    @Nepia Rebel Moon looked like a poor man's star wars with shades of several other Sci fi movies and a touch of Harry Potter.

    I watched Silent Night, which was a poor mans John Wick / Nobody...seems the gang bangers at the centre of the film graduated from the same marksmanship school as the storm troopers of Star Wars.

    It wasn't until I was listening to a podcast and they discussed the fact the film is mostly no dialogue that I realised it was no dialogue.

    TBF, direct shots to the head have little effect anyway so there could have been a lot of hits.

    As I said above, watch Woo's earlier movies instead of Silent Night.

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    Rebel Moon

    Jumped around the galaxy ✅
    Rag tag bunch of not-heroes ✅
    Forgettable dialogue ✅
    Those three ticks means it's basically a Star Wars film.
    If it was made in the 80s we would all be loving it. 🤷‍♂️

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    @MN5 said in Movie review thread...:

    It’s like he looked at latter day Marlon Brando and then thought “hold my beer”

    I suspect rather that he looked at latter-day Marlon Brando and thought “hold my beer” but said "where's a slab?"

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    Old Dads. Had some very funny moments and unfortunately very relevant themes but dragged on and got boring. They need to keep films like this tighter and shorter but I guess alot of it has to do with watch minutes etc.

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    @antipodean said in Movie review thread...:

    Or document Al Gore's wet dreams.

    I feel sick

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Movie review thread...:

    @antipodean said in Movie review thread...:

    Or document Al Gore's wet dreams.

    I feel sick

    First to the gallows

    PEST

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