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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by Duluth

      All Blacks squad:

      The matchday 23 (with Test caps in brackets) is:

      1 Joe Moody (28)
      2 Codie Taylor (19)
      3 Owen Franks (94)
      4 Brodie Retallick (64)
      5 Samuel Whitelock (88)
      6 Liam Squire (9)
      7 Sam Cane (44)
      8 Kieran Read (100) - Captain
      9 Aaron Smith (62)
      10 Beauden Barrett (53)
      11 Rieko Ioane (5)
      12 Sonny Bill Williams (36)
      13 Ryan Crotty (27)
      14 Ben Smith (62)
      15 Damian McKenzie (2)

      16 Nathan Harris (8)
      17 Wyatt Crockett (62)
      18 Ofa Tu'ungafasi (4)
      19 Luke Romano (26)
      20 Ardie Savea (16)
      21 TJ Perenara (33)
      22 Lima Sopoaga (7)
      23 Anton Lienert-Brown (13)

      http://www.allblacks.com/News/31223/all-blacks-team-named-for-investec-rugby-championship-opener

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      • JayCee
        JayCee last edited by JayCee

        so Kaino rested (even though he's played fark all rugby of late) or injured?

        @akan004's rumoured team was spot on

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        • rotated
          rotated last edited by

          Very easy to see how a team like that could lose away to Australia.

          Not sure what ALB has done to deserve his dropping, so far as I can tell he has made every post a winner.

          Exciting as Squire brings a much needed change to the formula in the loose forwards who were solid, yet unspectacular during the Lions series and McKenzie could signal a dramatic change in our attacking pattern.

          Is Scott Barrett injured? If not bravo for finally realising Romano is the guy you want off the bench.

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            • kiwiinmelb
              kiwiinmelb last edited by

              Im imagining this is the backline he was pencilling in with Jordie at 15 in place of DMac originally ,

              I think with BSmith about to be unavailable for a while , they are looking at their options ,

              Same 12 13 combo that started the first lions test with everyone available , and that first half of the first test , it probably went better than the rest of the series

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              • Hooroo
                Hooroo last edited by

                I'm so chuffed for DMac! Surely he would have to work harder than others due to being so small? Lightest Fullback since.....?

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                • taniwharugby
                  taniwharugby last edited by

                  I think the mid-field is key for us, as it was (or wasn't) in the Lions tests.

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                  • kiwiinmelb
                    kiwiinmelb @Hooroo last edited by

                    @Hooroo said in Bledisloe I:

                    I'm so chuffed for DMac! Surely he would have to work harder than others due to being so small? Lightest Fullback since.....?

                    Ben Blair ?

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                    • MN5
                      MN5 @kiwiinmelb last edited by

                      @kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe I:

                      @Hooroo said in Bledisloe I:

                      I'm so chuffed for DMac! Surely he would have to work harder than others due to being so small? Lightest Fullback since.....?

                      Ben Blair ?

                      Arfa Stone

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                        rotated @Hooroo last edited by

                        @Hooroo said in Bledisloe I:

                        I'm so chuffed for DMac! Surely he would have to work harder than others due to being so small? Lightest Fullback since.....?

                        Shayne Philpott would go close, AB.com has him as an inch taller but in an era when players were less built.

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                        • Crucial
                          Crucial @MN5 last edited by

                          @MN5 said in Bledisloe I:

                          @kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe I:

                          @Hooroo said in Bledisloe I:

                          I'm so chuffed for DMac! Surely he would have to work harder than others due to being so small? Lightest Fullback since.....?

                          Ben Blair ?

                          Arfa Stone

                          Never gets old that one.

                          Probably not far off Alan Hewsons playing weight.

                          Will be very interesting to see how much leash he is given to pop up at first receiver. Having DMac and BB as first options will keep the convicts on their toes.

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                          • chimoaus
                            chimoaus last edited by

                            Interesting team for sure. I don't think Cully would have weighed much when he started. I do recall reading somewhere he was one of the strongest players for his size.

                            Also sends a message to players that if you keep playing well and stick at it opportunities may came your way. Unless you are Duane Monkley.

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                            • ACT Crusader
                              ACT Crusader @kiwiinmelb last edited by ACT Crusader

                              @kiwiinmelb said in Bledisloe I:

                              Im imagining this is the backline he was pencilling in with Jordie at 15 in place of DMac originally ,

                              I think with BSmith about to be unavailable for a while , they are looking at their options ,

                              Same 12 13 combo that started the first lions test with everyone available , and that first half of the first test , it probably went better than the rest of the series

                              If Dagg hadn't been injured I think they would've started the Smith, Dagg, Ioane back 3 for this first test. That backline in the first Lions test was very good.

                              DMac gets his chance with two injuries. It will be interesting how they use the subs in this test.

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                              • Chris B.
                                Chris B. last edited by

                                Interesting selection - hope Hansen has 100% faith in the security firm they're using this time. Doesn't @Nepia live in Sydney these days?!!! 🙂

                                Duncan Johnstone writing an article suggesting the writing is on the wall for Kaino. I'm more inclined to think that they will want to give Squire increasing game time and manage JK to see if he can get through to 2019, but have options if he can't.

                                Another notable choice is Ofa on the bench. He apparently is our second best tighthead prop.

                                I guess with Dagg injured, DMac at fullback and Ben on the wing is the best way to get two fullbacks in the equation. Be interesting to see quite how DMac is played and how much license he's given to counter-attack.

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                                  akan004 @JayCee last edited by akan004

                                  @JayCee I think our reddit guy is the real deal. Apparently he correctly predicted the AB team for all three BIL tests a couple of days before the team was announced.

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                                  • Tim
                                    Tim @akan004 last edited by

                                    @akan004 Lets hope he's wrong about Coles!

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                                      akan004 @Tim last edited by

                                      @Tim Yeah, that's a massive concern.

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                                      • taniwharugby
                                        taniwharugby last edited by

                                        expect the 2nd test is when we will know more about Coles' situation if he is still unavailable.

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                                        • Nepia
                                          Nepia @Chris B. last edited by

                                          @Chris-B. Yep, in Sydney, I think Hansen will take a wide berth from me if we run into each other as I will likely blow my stack at him for overlooking Kaino! Although, I'm happy for them to start giving Squire game time (he was one of my correct AB predictions ... that came right :)) but maybe have one on the bench.

                                          That's an on paper weaker looking team than usual ... but I think it's jut a case of a changing of the guard?

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                                          • nzzp
                                            nzzp @Nepia last edited by

                                            @Nepia said in Bledisloe I:

                                            That's an on paper weaker looking team than usual ... but I think it's jut a case of a changing of the guard?

                                            I think they are looking at the EOYT as well. Last year they fell over in the final games - the coaching team are being proactive to avoid that this year.

                                            Still, against the Wobs in Sydney. They played well against us at EP last year, good physical play. A try got hauled back for taking out Savea, which was marginal (but stupid from the Aussies). Will be interesting to see how it goes. I think it will be a good close game

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                                            • antipodean
                                              antipodean @akan004 last edited by

                                              @akan004 said in Bledisloe I:

                                              @JayCee I think our reddit guy is the real deal. Apparently he correctly predicted the AB team for all three BIL tests a couple of days before the team was announced.

                                              I don't think Steve will be pleased that someone's naming his team for him on Tuesdays.

                                              I'm not thrilled with DMac's selection.

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                                              • KiwiMurph
                                                KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                The biggest thing for Mackenzie will be error rate - if he can keep that down he'll go well. Will be a good gauge of where Squire is at and whether he can be the future 6.

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                                                  akan004 @antipodean last edited by

                                                  @antipodean Apparently DMac was considering an overseas move as he didn't feel he had a realistic chance of making the ABs again. Perhaps his selection was made to keep him in NZ?

                                                  I'm personally excited about seeing him play, I think he's a fantastic player. Imagine if he has a blinder, we will then have another very good backup option at 15.

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                                                  • Unite
                                                    Unite last edited by

                                                    Surely Smith will be stood down now? What a cluster.

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                                                      Gunner @Unite last edited by

                                                      @Unite said in Bledisloe I:

                                                      Surely Smith will be stood down now? What a cluster.

                                                      ???

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                                                      • ACT Crusader
                                                        ACT Crusader @Unite last edited by

                                                        @Unite said in Bledisloe I:

                                                        Surely Smith will be stood down now? What a cluster.

                                                        Why? It all hit the press well before the team was named.

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                                                        • JayCee
                                                          JayCee @ACT Crusader last edited by

                                                          @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe I:

                                                          @Unite said in Bledisloe I:

                                                          Surely Smith will be stood down now? What a cluster.

                                                          Why? It all hit the press well before the team was named.

                                                          Also I would assume that this is old news to Hansen and Co. and Smith was prepared for this to come out

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                                                            akan004 @JayCee last edited by akan004

                                                            @JayCee Apparently the NZ Herald had access to this story pre the Lions series and chose not to run it. The AB management have obviously known about this for a while now and I think they have dealt with it and have moved on from it.

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                                                            • taniwharugby
                                                              taniwharugby last edited by

                                                              try to keep that issue to this thread

                                                              http://www.thesilverfern.com/topic/1543/2017-bledisloe-cup-rugby-championship-4-nations/190

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                                                                Stargazer @taniwharugby last edited by

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                                                                • Tim
                                                                  Tim @akan004 last edited by

                                                                  @akan004 said in Bledisloe I:

                                                                  @JayCee Apparently the NZ Herald had access to this story pre the Lions series and chose not to run it. The AB management have obviously known about this for a while now and I think they have dealt with it and have moved on from it.

                                                                  It's interesting the way the two major newspaper sites are covering this. It's the story on the Herald, which has no Mitre 10 Cup coverage. It's not being covered on Stuff, which has Mitre 10 Cup coverage.

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                                                                    akan004 @Tim last edited by akan004

                                                                    @Tim It's not covered in the Sydney Morning Herald/rugbyheaven either. Same ownership as Stuff?

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                                                                    • Tim
                                                                      Tim @akan004 last edited by

                                                                      @akan004 said in Bledisloe I:

                                                                      Sydney Morning Herald

                                                                      Both Fairfax, IIRC?

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                                                                      • Tim
                                                                        Tim last edited by

                                                                        Are AB selection threads some of the least active now?

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                                                                        • Stargazer
                                                                          Stargazer last edited by

                                                                          Wallabies team to face the All Blacks

                                                                          1 Scott Sio (32 Tests)
                                                                          2 Stephen Moore (120 Tests)
                                                                          3 Allan Alaalatoa (11 Tests)
                                                                          4 Rory Arnold (12 Tests)
                                                                          5 Adam Coleman (12 Tests)
                                                                          6 Ned Hanigan (3 Tests)
                                                                          7 Michael Hooper (c) (68 Tests)
                                                                          8 Sean McMahon (15 Tests)
                                                                          9 Will Genia (78 Tests)
                                                                          10 Bernard Foley (45 Tests)
                                                                          11 Curtis Rona*
                                                                          12 Kurtley Beale (60 Tests)
                                                                          13 Samu Kerevi (8 Tests)
                                                                          14 Henry Speight (12 Tests)
                                                                          15 Israel Folau (55 Tests)

                                                                          Reserves
                                                                          16 Tatafu Polota-Nau (71 Tests)
                                                                          17 Tom Robertson (9 Tests)
                                                                          18 Sekope Kepu (80 Tests)
                                                                          19 Rob Simmons (71 Tests)
                                                                          20 Lopeti Timani (7 Tests)
                                                                          21 Nick Phipps (52 Tests)
                                                                          22 Reece Hodge (13 Tests)
                                                                          23 Tevita Kuridrani (47 Tests)

                                                                          IN: Sean McMahon, Curtis Rona, Kurtley Beale, Samu Kerevi, Henry Speight, Tom Robertson, Rob Simmons, Nick Phipps, Tevita Kuridrani

                                                                          OUT: Dane Haylett-Petty (bicep), Sefa Naivalu (ankle), Karmichael Hunt (ankle), Rob Horne (omitted), Toby Smith (omitted), Sam Carter (omitted), Jack Dempsey (omitted), Joe Powell (omitted), Quade Cooper (omitted)

                                                                          http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2017/08/17/02/53/wallabies-team-for-all-blacks

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                                                                          • Stargazer
                                                                            Stargazer last edited by

                                                                            Looking at that Aussie squad, particularly the backline, it would be stupid to underestimate them.

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                                                                            • Tim
                                                                              Tim last edited by Tim

                                                                              That's an extremely mediocre forward pack. Hanigan is badly out of his depth.

                                                                              Squire was dreadful against the Crusaders, but aside from him we should really dominate that pack.

                                                                              ABs by 30+.

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                                                                                akan004 last edited by

                                                                                Foley, Beale and Kerevi are poor defensive players. ABs will run down their channel all day I would imagine. We really should put this team away fairly easily.

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                                                                                  akan004 @Stargazer last edited by

                                                                                  @Stargazer said in Bledisloe I:

                                                                                  Looking at that Aussie squad, particularly the backline, it would be stupid to underestimate them.

                                                                                  Good on attack maybe but terrible on defence.

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                                                                                  • ACT Crusader
                                                                                    ACT Crusader @Tim last edited by

                                                                                    @Tim said in Bledisloe I:

                                                                                    That's an extremely mediocre forward pack. Hanigan is badly out of his depth.

                                                                                    Squire was dreadful against the Crusaders, but aside from him we should really dominate that pack.

                                                                                    ABs by 30+.

                                                                                    In Sydney, 96-19...

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