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    @mn5 said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    20 Frizell

    I think the no20 jersey suits Frizell well in Super Rugby and potentially test footy, come on and just smash and bash blokes.

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    @mn5 said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    @southernmann said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    @nepia said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    Arguably at the start of this year Frizell was 3rd in line behind Squire and Dixon. Actually, isn't Dixon back? So that would make Hemopo 4th in line?

    While Mauger has already poured cold water on the idea of Hemopo moving to six, I think it would have our best players on the paddock and Luke Whitelock off it. I think that would be best for NZ rugby and best for the Highlanders, but it won't happen.

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    19 Whitelock
    20 Frizell

    Does playing well against Argentina not count anymore ? Him and Fifita seem to have been tarred with the same brush despite clattering greaseballs like bowling pins whenever they had the ball in hand.

    In their last 24 matches Argentina have won 4 and lost 20.

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    @nightmarehitter mate you've got to jump back into the convo 🙂

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    @kiwimurph said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    @mn5 said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    @southernmann said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    @nepia said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    Arguably at the start of this year Frizell was 3rd in line behind Squire and Dixon. Actually, isn't Dixon back? So that would make Hemopo 4th in line?

    While Mauger has already poured cold water on the idea of Hemopo moving to six, I think it would have our best players on the paddock and Luke Whitelock off it. I think that would be best for NZ rugby and best for the Highlanders, but it won't happen.

    4 Parkinson
    5 Franklin
    6 Hemopo
    7 Hunt
    8 Squire

    19 Whitelock
    20 Frizell

    Does playing well against Argentina not count anymore ? Him and Fifita seem to have been tarred with the same brush despite clattering greaseballs like bowling pins whenever they had the ball in hand.

    In their last 24 matches Argentina have won 4 and lost 20.

    They have been quite shit to be fair. The Scots fan in me is pleased by the thought of that this Sundee.

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    @southernmann said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    @mn5 said in Is Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    20 Frizell

    I think the no20 jersey suits Frizell well in Super Rugby and potentially test footy, come on and just smash and bash blokes.

    The problem is he doesn't smash and bash blokes, he scrags them down. I don't think he has put in one dominant tackle in the test matches he has played so far.

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    @sparky would he still have that same impact if teams got to see him play for us all year this year and how he's used, where he is on the field in patterns, etc?

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    @akan004

    I counted one against France, but overall I get your drift. He did reasonably well as a ball runner:

    http://www.thesilverfern.com/2018/06/24/the-rewatch-all-black-vs-france-june-23-2018/

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    I dont think its a necessity for a 6 to smash blokes, obviously your pack should be making effective tackles when possible as a core role. as long as he has can nail what is required and make big plays to shift momentum in whatever manner. Peter O mahony had huge work rate and made some great steals at crucial times.

    i dont think a bench loosie is much different, bring energy and preferably one of dominant Tackles or carries.

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    Can someone please correct this thread title. It is doing my head in.

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    @muddyriver said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemepo the answer?:

    I dont think its a necessity for a 6 to smash blokes, obviously your pack should be making effective tackles when possible as a core role. as long as he has can nail what is required and make big plays to shift momentum in whatever manner. Peter O mahony had huge work rate and made some great steals at crucial times.

    i dont think a bench loosie is much different, bring energy and preferably one of dominant Tackles or carries.

    I think it's necessary for every All Black loose forward to hit hard in defense.

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    @crucial said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    Can someone please correct this thread title. It is doing my head in.

    Better?

    Could have changed to "Is Kerran Reid and Vaia Fafita the answer?"

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    Couple of interesting bits from the Short Ball podcast today:

    Apparently, after losing about 50 kg, Karl Tu'inukuafe hasn't adjusted fully to his new body, and often moves like he's still carrying the weight. IIRC, this is expected to improve.

    Mils was "pretty shocked" that Ioane missed selection, thought he grew during the NPC, and was pretty huge. Work-ons are further development of the physical side of his game, especially on defence - continuing with tackles, rather than trying to get over the ball.

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    @tim said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    continuing with tackles, rather than trying to get over the ball

    ah, if he is doing that he would fit in perfectly with the current AB side

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    @mariner4life said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @tim said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    continuing with tackles, rather than trying to get over the ball

    ah, if he is doing that he would fit in perfectly with the current AB side

    Penalty stats for AB's "tackler not releasing", "not rolling away" would be worth a look. We don't seem to be very good at getting a guy away from the tackle and getting another over the ball without getting penalised. Bloody difficult I know.

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    @snowy said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @mariner4life said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @tim said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    continuing with tackles, rather than trying to get over the ball

    ah, if he is doing that he would fit in perfectly with the current AB side

    Penalty stats for AB's "tackler not releasing", "not rolling away" would be worth a look. We don't seem to be very good at getting a guy away from the tackle and getting another over the ball without getting penalised. Bloody difficult I know.

    my bigger gripe is the blokes grabbing a guy, then letting him go to re position for the ball, allowing him to escape.

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    @mariner4life said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @snowy said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @mariner4life said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    @tim said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    continuing with tackles, rather than trying to get over the ball

    ah, if he is doing that he would fit in perfectly with the current AB side

    Penalty stats for AB's "tackler not releasing", "not rolling away" would be worth a look. We don't seem to be very good at getting a guy away from the tackle and getting another over the ball without getting penalised. Bloody difficult I know.

    my bigger gripe is the blokes grabbing a guy, then letting him go to re position for the ball, allowing him to escape.

    Well Richie has sadly retired.

    As the coaches keep saying - execution. We all know what they should be doing, but they ain't getting it right.

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    Yes, Akira Ioane is the answer. What a player! So much power going forward and brilliant in defence

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    They'll find another reason not to pick Akira as usual. Hansen failed badly there, whatever the personal agenda he had with him there.

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    @African-Monkey the good news from insiders , he’s had big change of mind fix, which he needed to change , nobody else , if you had’nt noticed even the Auckland coaches were not starting Akira in the playing XV, he was behind Soututu..when your sitting on the pine watching someone else playing the house down you can either keep feeling sorry for yourself or you can do something about it and that’s what he’s done taken opportunity with injuries to both Robinson and Soututu..the blaming of Hansen is a load of nonsense in my opinion I think your the Lone Ranger on that one.
    Hansen’s frustration only echoed what many thought at the time.
    Credit to Akira for finding himself and playing at the level we know he can play at..

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    @African-Monkey said in Are Akira Ioane and Jackson Hemopo the answer?:

    They'll find another reason not to pick Akira as usual. Hansen failed badly there, whatever the personal agenda he had with him there.

    How DARE a coach not pick a player with attitude and fitness problems.

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