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  • barbarianB Offline
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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    WalesOnline verdict.

    Agree on 3 of the 4. Patchell shit technique, carry on.

    1. Tipuric deliberately taken out off the ball in lead up to AAC try

    2. Kerevi penalty

    3. G Davies Interception

    4. Genia forward pass in lead up to DHP try

    Simon Thomas  /  Sep 30, 2019  /  Rugby News

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The key controversial calls from Wales-Australia analysed

    I really dislike these sort of articles.

    The premise is always 'well [TEAM X] think they were robbed, but actually it was [TEAM Y, WHO I SUPPORT] that was hard done by'.

    And I readily admit the Australian press pull this trick out on occasion too.

    Point #1 really sums it up. Go through the video of any try and there's a 100% chance you will find a penalty offence committed by the attacking team in the lead-up phases.

    Yeah it's a penalty. Well done, WalesOnline. But that sort of incident happens half a dozen times a game, especially in this era of 'second man' attack with lines of blockers running flat.

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    @canefan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Damo this whinging and playing the victim is very un-Australian. Chieka, Kearns and everyone else who should know better should be ashamed

    Wow wow wow, lets be careful here. Claiming someone is un-Australian is the biggest insult in the universe. Equaled only by calling someone a Grub.
    Fair dinkum!

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    @pukunui said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @canefan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Damo this whinging and playing the victim is very un-Australian. Chieka, Kearns and everyone else who should know better should be ashamed

    Wow wow wow, lets be careful here. Claiming someone is un-Australian is the biggest insult in the universe. Equaled only by calling someone a Grub.
    Fair dinkum!

    I strongly debate that. The aussies love and celebrate grubs as long as they win!

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    @barbarian said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    WalesOnline verdict.

    Agree on 3 of the 4. Patchell shit technique, carry on.

    1. Tipuric deliberately taken out off the ball in lead up to AAC try

    2. Kerevi penalty

    3. G Davies Interception

    4. Genia forward pass in lead up to DHP try

    Simon Thomas  /  Sep 30, 2019  /  Rugby News

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The key controversial calls from Wales-Australia analysed

    I really dislike these sort of articles.

    The premise is always 'well [TEAM X] think they were robbed, but actually it was [TEAM Y, WHO I SUPPORT] that was hard done by'.

    And I readily admit the Australian press pull this trick out on occasion too.

    Point #1 really sums it up. Go through the video of any try and there's a 100% chance you will find a penalty offence committed by the attacking team in the lead-up phases.

    Yeah it's a penalty. Well done, WalesOnline. But that sort of incident happens half a dozen times a game, especially in this era of 'second man' attack with lines of blockers running flat.

    fucking me too #metoo

    Rugby is a fucked game. If you trawl through a rugby game in slow mo, getting the pause button out, and make some stills, any rugby game, between any sides, you can very easily build a narrative about how you were robbed, because there is iffy shit at every single breakdown/contest. And without context, you can make it damning as fuck.

    This arms race of deadshits claiming they were robbed, being one-upped by deadshits from the other side claiming they were robbeder, is how we end up in this fucking mess in the first place.

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    This still shows that he was clearly onside.
    alt text

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    @akan004 arms race!

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    @akan004 That blue line is a generous offside line

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    @Kirwan on the other hand it's also well after Genia has picked up the ball.

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Kirwan on the other hand it's also well after Genia has picked up the ball.

    Yep, to be clear, I think he was onside when I rewound it

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    @KiwiMurph Yeah, but the last Welsh players feet probably hadn't moved much from the ruck.

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    @Kirwan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Kirwan on the other hand it's also well after Genia has picked up the ball.

    Yep, to be clear, I think he was onside when I rewound it

    He was actually more onside than the guys next to the ruck - given there are no "last feet" on their side, technically any part of their body in contact with the ground should be back behind the last body on the ground on their side.

    But fuck it: for me no penalty. And if they'd looked at it with the TMO, they would have found that.

    As @barbarian said last night, it seems the refs have eased right up on the gate at ruck time, as well as play on the ground in general. THe attacking team is getting a bit more leeway than the defenders, and that is producing rugby with fewer penalties.

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    It was actually very clever play to realise that that particular ruck was very shallow and offered a great opportunity when the pass was obviously going to be wide.

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    @NTA said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Kirwan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Kirwan on the other hand it's also well after Genia has picked up the ball.

    Yep, to be clear, I think he was onside when I rewound it

    He was actually more onside than the guys next to the ruck - given there are no "last feet" on their side, technically any part of their body in contact with the ground should be back behind the last body on the ground on their side.

    But fuck it: for me no penalty. And if they'd looked at it with the TMO, they would have found that.

    As @barbarian said last night, it seems the refs have eased right up on the gate at ruck time, as well as play on the ground in general. THe attacking team is getting a bit more leeway than the defenders, and that is producing rugby with fewer penalties.

    The law did change subtly in that regard last year.

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    @akan004 said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    This still shows that he was clearly onside.
    alt text

    That's far from conclusive

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    @SammyC it's also far from 'clear and obvious' which would be the assessment at the time.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    There's other footage around as well.

    alt text

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    There's other footage around as well.

    alt text

    all these stills are really helping the conversation here guys...

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