Coronavirus - UK
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@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
I got the first jab on Wednesday (Pfizer). No ill effects, even though I'd had Covid back in Feb.
Interested in your decision to get the vaccine while being naturally immune mate?
I didn't particularly want to given the long term vaccine effects are unknowable at this stage. But thought in future it'd be easier to get into NZ (when it reopens) if the whole family and I are vaccinated.
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@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
I got the first jab on Wednesday (Pfizer). No ill effects, even though I'd had Covid back in Feb.
Interested in your decision to get the vaccine while being naturally immune mate?
I didn't particularly want to given the long term vaccine effects are unknowable at this stage. But thought in future it'd be easier to get into NZ (when it reopens) if me and whole family are vaccinated.
Thanks mate. Yep social considerations outweigh health ones for me and the wife too.
Incredible state of affairs really. Voluntarily infecting myself with a virus just to travel
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@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
I got the first jab on Wednesday (Pfizer). No ill effects, even though I'd had Covid back in Feb.
Interested in your decision to get the vaccine while being naturally immune mate?
I didn't particularly want to given the long term vaccine effects are unknowable at this stage. But thought in future it'd be easier to get into NZ (when it reopens) if me and whole family are vaccinated.
Thanks mate. Yep social considerations outweigh health ones for me and the wife too.
Incredible state of affairs really. Voluntarily infecting myself with a virus just to travel
Same here
Madness and a waste of money
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Incompetent fucking hypocrites
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@mikethesnow extended lockdown huh?
Britain is less free than last July when no one was vaccinated. Astonishing.
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@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
I got the first jab on Wednesday (Pfizer). No ill effects, even though I'd had Covid back in Feb.
Interested in your decision to get the vaccine while being naturally immune mate?
I didn't particularly want to given the long term vaccine effects are unknowable at this stage. But thought in future it'd be easier to get into NZ (when it reopens) if me and whole family are vaccinated.
Thanks mate. Yep social considerations outweigh health ones for me and the wife too.
Incredible state of affairs really. Voluntarily infecting myself with a virus just to travel
Why don't you just get vaccinated?
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
I got the first jab on Wednesday (Pfizer). No ill effects, even though I'd had Covid back in Feb.
Interested in your decision to get the vaccine while being naturally immune mate?
I didn't particularly want to given the long term vaccine effects are unknowable at this stage. But thought in future it'd be easier to get into NZ (when it reopens) if me and whole family are vaccinated.
Thanks mate. Yep social considerations outweigh health ones for me and the wife too.
Incredible state of affairs really. Voluntarily infecting myself with a virus just to travel
Why don't you just get vaccinated?
If we're doing semantics now, I've got one for you: died with covid vs died of covid😁
But I'll be more accurate since accuracy has defined the wuhan leaked virus, voluntarily infecting myself with a longitudinally untested vaccine just to travel.
That's made the world better😉
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
I got the first jab on Wednesday (Pfizer). No ill effects, even though I'd had Covid back in Feb.
Interested in your decision to get the vaccine while being naturally immune mate?
I didn't particularly want to given the long term vaccine effects are unknowable at this stage. But thought in future it'd be easier to get into NZ (when it reopens) if me and whole family are vaccinated.
Thanks mate. Yep social considerations outweigh health ones for me and the wife too.
Incredible state of affairs really. Voluntarily infecting myself with a virus just to travel
Why don't you just get vaccinated?
The vaccine doesn't actually contain the virus. There are some that do have attenuated or weakened viruses inside. But I don't believe that the covid19 vaccine is one of them
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
I got the first jab on Wednesday (Pfizer). No ill effects, even though I'd had Covid back in Feb.
Interested in your decision to get the vaccine while being naturally immune mate?
I didn't particularly want to given the long term vaccine effects are unknowable at this stage. But thought in future it'd be easier to get into NZ (when it reopens) if me and whole family are vaccinated.
Thanks mate. Yep social considerations outweigh health ones for me and the wife too.
Incredible state of affairs really. Voluntarily infecting myself with a virus just to travel
Why don't you just get vaccinated?
The vaccine doesn't actually contain the virus. There are some that do have attenuated or weakened viruses inside. But I don't believe that the covid19 vaccine is one of them
Both Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA versions while AZ is a vector type. this wiki has all the info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccine
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@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
@siam said in Coronavirus - UK:
@tewaio said in Coronavirus - UK:
I got the first jab on Wednesday (Pfizer). No ill effects, even though I'd had Covid back in Feb.
Interested in your decision to get the vaccine while being naturally immune mate?
I didn't particularly want to given the long term vaccine effects are unknowable at this stage. But thought in future it'd be easier to get into NZ (when it reopens) if me and whole family are vaccinated.
Thanks mate. Yep social considerations outweigh health ones for me and the wife too.
Incredible state of affairs really. Voluntarily infecting myself with a virus just to travel
Why don't you just get vaccinated?
If we're doing semantics now, I've got one for you: died with covid vs died of covid😁
But I'll be more accurate since accuracy has defined the wuhan leaked virus, voluntarily infecting myself with a longitudinally untested vaccine just to travel.
That's made the world better😉
It's been pretty obvious for a long time that vaccines would be the most likely risk mitigation strategy for border movements.
'Just to travel' is a privilege rather than a right. You may have rights of entry to countries but not rights to travel there (as stranded people the world over have found is a subtle but important difference). -
@crucial you've jumped in here a bit half cocked fella...
Firstly, where did i mention travel being an inalienable right?" Just" to travel is separating the vaccination from the health reasons. I.e I'm getting the vaccine, not for health, or to save my life but for travel. You know like everyone else on this forum.
Secondly who's talking about countries?
I'm talking about the "privilege" of getting firewood 11 kilometres away from my house near a state border, just like every Australian has had that "privilege" for about 200 years.
It's also been pretty obvious that that risk mitigation strategies have been wholly over stated and that no robust evidence exists that vaccination reduces the spread of the virus. Nothing from the vaccine companies about reduced infection rates as the latest lockdown can attest.
But I do appreciate your guardian of the crumbling narrative (wet market NOT lab leak, 3 weeks to flatten the curve, save the nhs, vaccines equal no more lockdowns, G7 social distancing theatre, censorship, mask wearing in the Lords hospitality boxes, mask wearing at the Adelaide oval etc) role. Like a Jen Psaki of the covid administration 😁.
Just jokes mate. The truth is we're obviously both scared. I'm scared that I'm right about covid and you're scared that you're wrong.😉
Relax bro, we're in a pandemic and everyone is at risk of dying. No need to lecture on human rights. What is it with you whiteys and your obsession with "privilege "?😁👍 Don't forget visiting your dying parent is a privilege. Being with your sick premature baby is a privilege. Hugging someone you know is a privilege. Leaving the confines of your home is a privilege. Meeting your grandson in the first 3 months of their life is a privilege. Attending a funeral is a privilege...
But nevermind,
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My weekly ‘Am I being thick / What am I Missing?’ question.
BBC1 Question Time time
First question
Should care workers be forced to be double vaccinated to work in the care home system?
All I’ve read the past two weeks is being doubly jabbed doesn’t
stop you getting COVID, but reduces the severity
stop you transmitting COVID
So isn’t it safer (for the residents) and more effective to mandate testing prior to starting your shift?
Or don’t the Government trust the accuracy of the tests?
Answers on a postcard to the usual address
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It doesn't quite add up completely but getting the jabs does significantly reduce your chances of getting Covid, 90 something percent in the case of Pfizer according to the testing, 60 something percent for the AZ variant.
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From experience and what we've been told by care homes/providers, it seems it's the severity of a Covid infection which is the issue.
When Mrs M's parents both caught Covid, the big worry from the care providers was their staff getting infected and being off sick for long periods of time - as well as the risk to other patients. Having too many staff off sick would have a devastating impact on elderly people relying on carers to survive.
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@mikethesnow I had the same query yesterday, but Bonesetta swore that they were saying it reduces the risk of you passing on covid. I did a quick google and found this:
Early data show that vaccines help keep people with no symptoms from spreading COVID-19.
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@bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@mikethesnow I had the same query yesterday, but Bonesetta swore that they were saying it reduces the risk of you passing on covid. I did a quick google and found this:
Early data show that vaccines help keep people with no symptoms from spreading COVID-19.
How about the people with symptoms?