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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
Was he questioning the settled science or mocking the hell out of the previous apocalyptic statements regarding isolated weather events that turned out to be utter bullshit?
Depends on who you think his target audience is. Is he into hyperbole? Yes. Has he derided climate change? Certainly. In 2016 he called it a hoax.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
Was he questioning the settled science or mocking the hell out of the previous apocalyptic statements regarding isolated weather events that turned out to be utter bullshit?
Depends on who you think his target audience is. Is he into hyperbole? Yes. Has he derided climate change? Certainly. In 2016 he called it a hoax.
The point is that it's nothing new that presidents, PMs, chancellors, popes, dictators etc. have engaged in hyperbole and said some pretty irresponsible things regarding CC. Shitloads have certainly done exactly as Trump has and pointed to an isolated weather event as an argument to support their view. IMHO scaring the shit out of people and throwing stupid amounts of money at a pretend fix to the problem is just as bad as doing nothing.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
Was he questioning the settled science or mocking the hell out of the previous apocalyptic statements regarding isolated weather events that turned out to be utter bullshit?
Depends on who you think his target audience is. Is he into hyperbole? Yes. Has he derided climate change? Certainly. In 2016 he called it a hoax.
The point is that it's nothing new that presidents, PMs, chancellors, popes, dictators etc. have engaged in hyperbole and said some pretty irresponsible things regarding CC. Shitloads have certainly done exactly as Trump has and pointed to an isolated weather event as an argument to support their view.
It's one thing entirely to point out setting new record lows and highs is what one expects from climate change and another to erroneously call a record low proof global warming doesn't exist. It's either ignorant or disingenuous. With Trump I can't tell which.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
Was he questioning the settled science or mocking the hell out of the previous apocalyptic statements regarding isolated weather events that turned out to be utter bullshit?
Depends on who you think his target audience is. Is he into hyperbole? Yes. Has he derided climate change? Certainly. In 2016 he called it a hoax.
The point is that it's nothing new that presidents, PMs, chancellors, popes, dictators etc. have engaged in hyperbole and said some pretty irresponsible things regarding CC. Shitloads have certainly done exactly as Trump has and pointed to an isolated weather event as an argument to support their view.
It's one thing entirely to point out setting new record lows and highs is what one expects from climate change and another to erroneously call a record low proof global warming doesn't exist. It's either ignorant or disingenuous. With Trump I can't tell which.
Doesn't that apply to all or most politicians? It's about political expediency, not actually caring about or trying to fix a problem.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
Was he questioning the settled science or mocking the hell out of the previous apocalyptic statements regarding isolated weather events that turned out to be utter bullshit?
Depends on who you think his target audience is. Is he into hyperbole? Yes. Has he derided climate change? Certainly. In 2016 he called it a hoax.
The point is that it's nothing new that presidents, PMs, chancellors, popes, dictators etc. have engaged in hyperbole and said some pretty irresponsible things regarding CC. Shitloads have certainly done exactly as Trump has and pointed to an isolated weather event as an argument to support their view.
It's one thing entirely to point out setting new record lows and highs is what one expects from climate change and another to erroneously call a record low proof global warming doesn't exist. It's either ignorant or disingenuous. With Trump I can't tell which.
Doesn't that apply to all or most politicians? It's about political expediency, not actually caring about or trying to fix a problem.
Probably, but the higher the office the greater the responsibility.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in US Politics:
Was he questioning the settled science or mocking the hell out of the previous apocalyptic statements regarding isolated weather events that turned out to be utter bullshit?
Depends on who you think his target audience is. Is he into hyperbole? Yes. Has he derided climate change? Certainly. In 2016 he called it a hoax.
The point is that it's nothing new that presidents, PMs, chancellors, popes, dictators etc. have engaged in hyperbole and said some pretty irresponsible things regarding CC. Shitloads have certainly done exactly as Trump has and pointed to an isolated weather event as an argument to support their view.
It's one thing entirely to point out setting new record lows and highs is what one expects from climate change and another to erroneously call a record low proof global warming doesn't exist. It's either ignorant or disingenuous. With Trump I can't tell which.
Doesn't that apply to all or most politicians? It's about political expediency, not actually caring about or trying to fix a problem.
Probably, but the higher the office the greater the responsibility.
Er, no shit.
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Trump truly faces bi-partisan opposition in his attempt to pull out of Afghanistan.
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@Frank said in US Politics:
Trump truly faces bi-partisan opposition in his attempt to pull out of Afghanistan.
Wow, Trump is bringing both sides of the aisle together for once
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Why were the Dems wearing white?
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@No-Quarter said in US Politics:
Why were the Dems wearing white?
Just the women
It was a protest. They claim he is bad for womens progress etc etc
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@Duluth said in US Politics:
@No-Quarter said in US Politics:
Why were the Dems wearing white?
Just the women
It was a protest. They claim he is bad for womens progress etc etc
Great response to that here from a state congresswoman:
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@Rembrandt
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@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@Duluth I'd read reports that it was a tribute to the suffrage movement. Not to say there weren't several reasons to wear white though.
A better tribute would be Pelosi running in front of a race horse. I'd include Dianne Feinstein, but at her age she wouldn't make it out there in time.
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So totally unverified rumour..apparently the speech given to Pelosi in prep for the rebuttal was different than what Trump presented. (You can see her reading it at the start) Absolute gold if true..though maybe a little short-sighted when it comes to future negotiations
also Boom! You just got owned big time Trump
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@Rembrandt ffs, is that actually real? Jaysus they just can't see the wood for the trees.
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@Paekakboyz There are others too which are larger discrepancies. Trump said nearly 5 million have come off of foodstamps when the actual total would be unlikely to be much more than 4 million.
The thing is this is actually part of his strategy. If all his claims were 100% accurate the whole thing would be a story for a day maybe and not many would hear about it because msm wouldn't report on it.
By exaggerating then all media outlets descend on it like a flock of braindead seagulls thinking they have a win..but all they've managed to do was keep a Trump success (albeit a slightly smaller one than he boasted about) in the press for much longer and in the case of the NYT article make themselves look ridiculous.
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