Springboks v All Blacks 2
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Fozzie is fifty shades of desperate.
If I were him, I'd throw a Hail Mary and makes a raft of changes.
If they win, he can claim the changes were made, hope for the future etc.
Alternatively, he knows he is done, the players know he is done, and we get pumped.(again) -
how much mental damage is being done to the players? It cannot be a happy environment, and players struggle to perform when they are under relentless negative pressure.
Argument for a change, just for the atmosphere to lift.
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Two things are going to happen. Status quo, we get humped, still can't take a high ball and Marx has another day out at the ruck.
Or, Fozzie finally admits to the group, "I got nuthin', just go an play", they do and they look good in the 2nd 40 to take a win.
Either way, NZRU part ways with Foz, Schmidt comes in as non travelling care taker head coach and Razor as his traveling assistant.
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I'd start Christie in this game. Smith is too slow now. Might be time to drop him for Weber.
Coles should be playing club rugby. Taylor on the bench.
Cane gets the chop.
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Who's the ref? Hopefully one that doesn't allow disrupting jumpers at the high ball with no intention of catching (I thought they worked that one out years ago when the Bokke first tried it) and one that doesn't reward a jackal if the tackler still has their arms around the tackled player.
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Referee: Luke Pearce (RFU)
Assistant Referee 1: Angus Gardner (RA)
Assistant Referee 2: Christophe Ridley (RFU)
TMO: Brett Cronan (RA)
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Im thinking that Both Beauden and Jordie might be out injured, def Jordie by looks of it with his lower leg. Jordan at FB Richie at 10, reece to 14? TBH don't think Foster will make many other changes from what he is saying (Don't panic, group growing.....). There are changes the Fern wants and then what Foster wants haha!
As I and others have mentioned its more about a gameplan that works for the players we have, not sure many any changes at this stage will accomplish much without new plan of attack
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@Tim I don’t think Smith is too slow. He’s just fucking predictable. He at least has to be looking for some runs around the ruck to mix things up. Course I’ve been saying this for a while and we get the usual that he is best thing since sliced bread. He has regressed. Now I know his pack has not been good but then again he is not good at organizing them.
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Doubt BB will play. So Perofeta will probably get a debut off the bench
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Smith, Mo’unga, Clarke, Goodhue, Ioane, Reece, Jordan
Christie, Perofeta, QT/Fainga’anuku
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
Smith, Mo’unga, Clarke, Goodhue, Ioane, Reece, Jordan
Christie, Perofeta, QT/Fainga’anuku
That’s might be right
QT ahead of LF because he’s better midfield cover. RI & WJ both cover the wing from the starting XV
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@Duluth said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
Smith, Mo’unga, Clarke, Goodhue, Ioane, Reece, Jordan
Christie, Perofeta, QT/Fainga’anuku
That’s might be right
QT ahead of LF because he’s better midfield cover. RI & WJ both cover the wing from the starting XV
Except Goodhue is still in NZ,Ennor went over as cover for Goodhue.
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@Chris said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@Duluth said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
Smith, Mo’unga, Clarke, Goodhue, Ioane, Reece, Jordan
Christie, Perofeta, QT/Fainga’anuku
That’s might be right
QT ahead of LF because he’s better midfield cover. RI & WJ both cover the wing from the starting XV
Except Goodhue is still in NZ,Ennor went over as cover for Goodhue.
Thought he had left. Oh well, back to the same old well then of either QT or Havili.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
Smith, Mo’unga, Clarke, Goodhue, Ioane, Reece, Jordan
Christie, Perofeta, QT/Fainga’anuku
Who are you and how did you get @ACT-Crusader 's password?
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@booboo said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
Smith, Mo’unga, Clarke, Goodhue, Ioane, Reece, Jordan
Christie, Perofeta, QT/Fainga’anuku
Who are you and how did you get @ACT-Crusader 's password?
Fozzie stopped reading my emails about 2 years ago
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@broughie said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@Tim I don’t think Smith is too slow. He’s just fucking predictable. He at least has to be looking for some runs around the ruck to mix things up. Course I’ve been saying this for a while and we get the usual that he is best thing since sliced bread. He has regressed. Now I know his pack has not been good but then again he is not good at organizing them.
Because he doesn't even try and run, defence rushes up both sides of the ruck. There's no variation.
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@Tim I think there is zero chance Cane goes unless fozzie does...would.be tantamount to him admitting he got it wrong 3 years ago naming an injured player as his captain.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@Tim I think there is zero chance Cane goes unless fozzie does...would.be tantamount to him admitting he got it wrong 3 years again naming an injured player as his captain.
Sounds like Robinson and his selection of head coach
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@Chris I wasn't sure on that...I had seen a social media post with him in Christchurch but the image stuff used at the airport of the ABs not wearing masks had goodhue in it...and right players in the image...musta been a camp they went to
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@Chris said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@Duluth said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
Smith, Mo’unga, Clarke, Goodhue, Ioane, Reece, Jordan
Christie, Perofeta, QT/Fainga’anuku
That’s might be right
QT ahead of LF because he’s better midfield cover. RI & WJ both cover the wing from the starting XV
Except Goodhue is still in NZ,Ennor went over as cover for Goodhue.
@Bones will be liking this post when he wakes up
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@Frank said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
Fozzie is fifty shades of desperate.
If I were him, I'd throw a Hail Mary and makes a raft of changes.
If they win, he can claim the changes were made, hope for the future etc.
Alternatively, he knows he is done, the players know he is done, and we get pumped.(again)Ooh can we have an alt. XV?
Bower can stay but how about some new blood: Tamati Williams (is he more a tighthead now?* Can still play both? Then maybe Williams to bench).
Sami T
Franks oh ok Newell
Locks ok? fly over Josh Dickson, sub Sam off about 50 min in..
Callum or Hosea, Ardie to 7, you can choose 6 but not Shannon please (is Tom Robinson still injured?)
Put Aaron on bench and choose Christie or... to start to make the old bugger compete for his place...
Richie, Perofeta as back up
Wings Reece Clarke or Big L again to see if he can repent
Midfield: hmm...the Umaga Jensens (well this is an alternative XV) or they can call backNepoNgani on bended knee and promise some free sushi
Fullback Zarn Sullivan
can have Jordan on bench...add in your fave unreliable yet exciting talent..I'd like to put Fakatava there but we still need Aaron ... -
After "our most improved performance of the season" yesterday, the Boks and their fans will be quaking in their boots about the Ellis Park test. 😉
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
Smith, Mo’unga, Clarke, Goodhue, Ioane, Reece, Jordan
Christie, Perofeta, QT/Fainga’anuku
QT for Goodhue (who’s not touring) with Leicester on the bench. Knowing Foster he’ll prob play Ennor..
Havili doesn’t have enough of a running game at test level, defence can drift off him and nullify Reiko and co. Time to give QT a decent run at 12.
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@sparky said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
After "our most improved performance of the season" yesterday, the Boks and their fans will be quaking in their boots about the Ellis Park test. 😉
Foster did say they were “excited” about going to Ellis Park..
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@TheMojoman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@sparky said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
After "our most improved performance of the season" yesterday, the Boks and their fans will be quaking in their boots about the Ellis Park test. 😉
Foster did say they were “excited” about going to Ellis Park..
He's obviously a masochist with what excites him
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Q: when QT overran DH was that because DH slowed into contact like he was paranoid about ball security or collision impact? I only saw it once I think but it looked like DH really slowed down and was too busy looking at the tackler to do anything with the ball so I am not surprised QT overran him...
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Now Test 1 is over can we change the title thread to "Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Goosesong!!)"
Or maybe the NZR should just fire the backline/attack coach who looks even worse than the last backline/attack coach they just fired.
Foster would understand, seeing as how he fired the last one who seems to have been better than the current one... What did you say? Oh.
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@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@Chris I wasn't sure on that...I had seen a social media post with him in Christchurch but the image stuff used at the airport of the ABs not wearing masks had goodhue in it...and right players in the image...musta been a camp they went to
Yeah that was in Wellington during the Ireland series.
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In test 2 I'd really like us playing on our strengths and their weaknesses. Ever since Hansen this "we worry about our team" schtick really gets me. The opponents work out and exploit our weaknesses and make us play their style (esp Ireland, SA). Why do we let them do this? And why can't we play the refs like they do? Am guesstimating but I expect the penalty ratio is getting worse and worse.
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@TheMojoman Do they have KFC there?
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@nostrildamus Are you taking the piss? Laulala in midfield?
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@ARHS said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@nostrildamus Are you taking the piss? Laulala in midfield?
Brain fade. Ngani. Ngani Laumape hence sushi comment. Well spotted!
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@ARHS rather just start rts then go back to the Casey Laulala well
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The quicker the Springbokke forget about last night the better. Suppose Faf and KL Arendse will be out. RasNaber won't change much maybe Kriel on the wing and H Jantjies in. Was enjoying the bit of phase play at the start until they realized the All Blacks catch a cold in the air. Some of the Boks will need a rest at sometime. Maybe bring Ox and Tank on the bench, start with Kitshoff.
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@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
The quicker the Springbokke forget about last night the better. Suppose Faf and KL Arendse will be out. RasNaber won't change much maybe Kriel on the wing and H Jantjies in. Was enjoying the bit of phase play at the start until they realized the All Blacks catch a cold in the air. Some of the Boks will need a rest at sometime. Maybe bring Ox and Tank on the bench, start with Kitshoff.
Can't see the Boks losing against the absolute rabble in Black at the moment. We're a shower of shit. Worst AB team of my lifetime. If you're a Boks fan get a ticket to Ellis Park if you possibly can. The ABs are going to get whipped.
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@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
The quicker the Springbokke forget about last night the better. Suppose Faf and KL Arendse will be out. RasNaber won't change much maybe Kriel on the wing and H Jantjies in. Was enjoying the bit of phase play at the start until they realized the All Blacks catch a cold in the air. Some of the Boks will need a rest at sometime. Maybe bring Ox and Tank on the bench, start with Kitshoff.
Yes, it was just a bad dream. Never happened
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@nostrildamus welcome to our world. We have been smashed by the All Blacks not long ago for a long time. A week is a long time in rugby.
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@sparky said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
The quicker the Springbokke forget about last night the better. Suppose Faf and KL Arendse will be out. RasNaber won't change much maybe Kriel on the wing and H Jantjies in. Was enjoying the bit of phase play at the start until they realized the All Blacks catch a cold in the air. Some of the Boks will need a rest at sometime. Maybe bring Ox and Tank on the bench, start with Kitshoff.
Can't see the Boks losing against the absolute rabble in Black at the moment. We're a shower of shit. Worst AB team of my lifetime. If you're a Boks fan get a ticket to Ellis Park if you possibly can. The ABs are going to get whipped.
Not around in '98/'99?
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If Frizell is in the squad I'm supporting South Africa
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@booboo mate, they actually played some good rugby...this team is about to equal that run anyway next week.
