Should the Crusaders change their name?
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and I get that of course they would deny any pressure etc. But this does come across as bullshit - and it flies in the face of how things have been handled by all involved to date imo.
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@Paekakboyz said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
and I get that of course they would deny any pressure etc. But this does come across as bullshit - and it flies in the face of how things have been handled by all involved to date imo.
Does it? The govt have been incredibly active in attacking freedoms since the attack.
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Well someone is not telling the truth.
Given Tew has come out with the "untenable" statement it would lend weight to the "already been decided argument", as much as "unnnamed sources" are an argument against the alternative.
Personally I'm inclined to believe that there is pressure from high places.
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This is what I meant when I said this issue is at best divisive and will only build resentment towards Muslims, most of whom do not even care about the name of a bloody rugby team.
And it all started from media reporting anonymous twitter SJWs for clicks. There is nothing to be gained from this, and plenty to lose.
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@No-Quarter said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
This is what I meant when I said this issue is at best divisive and will only build resentment towards Muslims, most of whom do not even care about the name of a bloody rugby team.
And it all started from media reporting anonymous twitter SJWs for clicks. There is nothing to be gained from this, and plenty to lose.
“The clubs name has become a toxic symbol for many” really ? Who, who says it’s toxic?
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@SammyC said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
Got a bunch of Facebook friends sharing the petition online.
Funny how they care so much about this, but don’t care enough to ever attend an actual game.
Because this looks like an actual contest
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.Mine is the red and black jacket with no name on it.
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Fuck this guy:
"The name-change pressure emerged because of the centuries-old sensitivity over the history of the Crusades, which were bloody medieval conflicts between Muslims and Christians.
"So these are really striking figures and what they tell us is that a very small proportion of New Zealanders understand the deep history of conflict between Muslims and Christians that the word Crusade means," historian Peter Lineham told TVNZ."
I don't think this result means Kiwis are uneducated; simply that many don't see the need to extend historical events to a rugby team. Treating the overwhelming majority as - I think they are trying to say - redneck racists (especially Cantabs & National voters) doesn't help at all.
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@Mokey said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
If they are going to go down the path of no ancient conflict or death, then what Super team names do hold up? Not Highlanders, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Rebels, Sharks, Stormers, Lions, Bulls, Jaguares, Sunwolves...
There’s a history of depression in my family, I’m triggered by the Blues . They should change their name too .
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@gt12 said in Should the Crusaders change their name?:
Fuck this guy:
"The name-change pressure emerged because of the centuries-old sensitivity over the history of the Crusades, which were bloody medieval conflicts between Muslims and Christians.
"So these are really striking figures and what they tell us is that a very small proportion of New Zealanders understand the deep history of conflict between Muslims and Christians that the word Crusade means," historian Peter Lineham told TVNZ."
I don't think this result means Kiwis are uneducated; simply that many don't see the need to extend historical events to a rugby team. Treating the overwhelming majority as - I think they are trying to say - redneck racists (especially Cantabs & National voters) doesn't help at all.
We're all a basket of deplorables.
Maybe there's a sizeable majority of NZers who understand that a word does not define a community attitude.
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@booboo or maybe the majority of people realise the Crusaders are a rugby team, with zero correlation to the Crusades 800 odd years back?
Am sure if we start thinking about it hard enough, there are links to all sorts of atrocities in our every day lives...