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@gollum said in US Politics:
More polls....
Completely and utterly meaningless.. have you learnt nothing?
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@Bones said in US Politics:
I probably shouldn't have googled "butthurt".
I have a therapy session this afternoon. I googled circle jerk because of you bastards so I'm not going near that one.
Someone didn't go to boarding school...
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The opinion polls weren't accurate enough to call a relatively close election. They also weren't out by 25% - 30% either. Perhaps chuck in the actual margin of error from the elections and they're at least somewhere in the ballpark. That's without getting into whether they were closer to the actual tally of votes rather than the Electoral College results too - I wonder whether they modelled for that.
Eventually the better pollsters will figure out how to model and when to apply a Shy Tory/Tom Bradley Effect accurately enough in the Western world, they've had two good looks at it in the last twelve months.
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@Donsteppa said in US Politics:
The opinion polls weren't accurate enough to call a relatively close election. They also weren't out by 25% - 30% either. Perhaps chuck in the actual margin of error from the elections and they're at least somewhere in the ballpark. That's without getting into whether they were closer to the actual tally of votes rather than the Electoral College results too - I wonder whether they modelled for that.
Eventually the better pollsters will figure out how to model and when to apply a Shy Tory/Tom Bradley Effect accurately enough in the Western world, they've had two good looks at it in the last twelve months.
Did you not get the memo? The election race wast even close....
And different polls are showing vastly different thing in relation to Trumps popularity over the last few days.
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They've nailed his speaking patterns.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
@Donsteppa said in US Politics:
The opinion polls weren't accurate enough to call a relatively close election. They also weren't out by 25% - 30% either. Perhaps chuck in the actual margin of error from the elections and they're at least somewhere in the ballpark. That's without getting into whether they were closer to the actual tally of votes rather than the Electoral College results too - I wonder whether they modelled for that.
Eventually the better pollsters will figure out how to model and when to apply a Shy Tory/Tom Bradley Effect accurately enough in the Western world, they've had two good looks at it in the last twelve months.
Did you not get the memo? The election race wast even close....
And different polls are showing vastly different thing in relation to Trumps popularity over the last few days.
I got the results memo, yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Results
I got that in terms of individual votes, it was close. In terms of one candidate understanding the Electoral college system and doing a great job campaigning - and another candidate being an utterly clueless campaigner, that was also part of my read on it.
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@Donsteppa said in US Politics:
Still fascinated that 4,488,931 individuals voted for someone who had no chance and who didn't recognise that never heard of before city of Aleppo...
Nah, there plenty of other votes going on that day Congress, Senate, some Governorships. If I was voting I would have left the top of the ticket blank and voted on the other races.
Is it strange to reject Trump and Hillary, but still have an opinion on the other races?
A vote for Johnson is similar to that but indicating a limited government preference (but that was a particularly shitty libertarian ticket because of Weld)
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
They've nailed his speaking patterns.
See.. that is funny and clever. Great piss take of Trump. Makes SNL look rather pathetic.
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@Donsteppa said in US Politics:
Still fascinated that 4,488,931 individuals voted for someone who had no chance and who didn't recognise that never heard of before city of Aleppo...
"A leppo? Who or what the hell is 'A leppo'?"
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@NTA said in US Politics:
@Donsteppa said in US Politics:
Still fascinated that 4,488,931 individuals voted for someone who had no chance and who didn't recognise that never heard of before city of Aleppo...
"A leppo? Who or what the hell is 'A leppo'?"
An aussie suffering from Mycobacterium lepromatosis?
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@dK our willingness to abbreviate things is both a blessing and a curse.
I was going back through the threat, trying to find something I'd written on solar power, when I came across this link:
Trump lays out non-interventionist U.S. military policy
Many here support that - while being isolationist in economic policy isn't great, the US getting involved in foreign conflict has been a big issue since Bush kicked everything off after 9/11. And actually, long before.
And I was trying to reconcile it with Trump saying "maybe we'll get another chance" at the Iraqi Oil, at the CIA address the other day.
More and more, it just looks like he says those kind of things to please whoever is sitting in front of him. I've no doubt he's very serious about crushing ISIS (and in the clip he states that if they had kept the oil, ISIS would never have happened), but I really think he's just getting up there and putting on a show.
Of course, there are also Tillerson's remarks about the South China Sea.
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@antipodean
That's really, really good, and devoid of the obvious Alex Baldwin butthurt. -
Regardless of political leanings... wouldnt it just be great to have a job that just involves leading the most powerful country in the world and enacting all the things you think should happen. Incoming US presidents must just have so much fun in that first 100 days.
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@Donsteppa said in US Politics:
Still fascinated that 4,488,931 individuals voted for someone who had no chance and who didn't recognise that never heard of before city of Aleppo...
A lot more voted for someone who thought China was in the TPP. Almost all the states Johnson did well in, were not swing states. Of the ten states Johnson did best in, only two would flip if every Johnson voter voted for the loser. Most people were making a point and not voting for a president.
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