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I enjoyed that episode more than any other in this entire series. The only character I'm emotionally invested in was awesome, but then I'm not the only person who likes Arya the most. The rest can all die as far as I'm concerned. Whoever ends up on the throne is of intellectual curiosity to me. Although I'm hoping it's not Dany.
The battle cinematography was by and large brilliant. Not sure why you'd have your catapults in front of the cannon fodder, but whatever. Good to see the cavalry get slaughtered. Useless poncy pricks. Tremendous discipline from the unsullied.
The inside scene with Arya was probably the highlight. Magnificently shot and really felt like the suffocating fear of being surrounded and fleeing.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Kirwan Haha your answer to everything - magic
Seems a reasonable response when you've got dragons...
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@antipodean undead...shape changers...light up 10,000 swords with fire with a few words
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Anyone else think hot oil/tar aka medieval castle style defence would have been a good option? Pour it all over them and set it on fire. Also anyone think Greyworm was a bit of a prick sacrificing all the unsullied by closing the gate but not joining them? Too much pussy clouded his brain me thinks.
Also in regards to Arya does she have to kill the person before wearing the face or can she use anyones? Might make wearing Jamies face a little difficult if she has to kill him first.
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@taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@antipodean undead...shape changers...light up 10,000 swords with fire with a few words
Theon being awesome with a polearm, major characters being saved Deus ex Machina x12, ...
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@antipodean said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
The battle cinematography was by and large brilliant.
Did we watch a different episode? 😉 I found the fight cinematography to be average - before even getting into the stupidity of the defence of Winterfell. The Dothraki charge was the best bit of cinematography in the whole battle and also the stupidest scene in terms of the defence.
Agree on the Arya in the library scene though.
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@Virgil said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@mariner4life said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Also, how fucking tense was that episode? Action aplenty, but there was times i was fucking stressed. The Library with Arya was awesome.
Then, as shit got worse and worse, i got more and more wound up. Jon's the hero, the hero needs to save everyone, but he's trapped because he needs to get past a goddam undead dragon! Fuck, just run fluffybunny! Come on!! the clock is ticking!
Fuck that was some good film making.
I was literally shaking for the first part of the episode
Had no idea how it would play out, the timing and structure I thought were perfectly executed at the start.
Plus will we ever see dragons on tv or film in such a fucking way again? Seeing Drogon shaking off the wights as they climbed all over him.
The books will never be beaten for depth and story telling but you won’t outdo the visuals that the tv show has pulled off.
Never be a tv show like this again.. well hopefully the prequel series will live up to thisPffft, the Mandalorian will shit over it.
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@Nepia said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@antipodean said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
The battle cinematography was by and large brilliant.
Did we watch a different episode? 😉 I found the fight cinematography to be average - before even getting into the stupidity of the defence of Winterfell. The Dothraki charge was the best bit of cinematography in the whole battle and also the stupidest scene in terms of the defence.
Agree on the Arya in the library scene though.
You thought the fight cinematography was average? Which battle scenes on the screen have been better?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Nepia said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@antipodean said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
The battle cinematography was by and large brilliant.
Did we watch a different episode? 😉 I found the fight cinematography to be average - before even getting into the stupidity of the defence of Winterfell. The Dothraki charge was the best bit of cinematography in the whole battle and also the stupidest scene in terms of the defence.
Agree on the Arya in the library scene though.
You thought the fight cinematography was average? Which battle scenes on the screen have been better?
When half the viewers are complaining about the lightening and a bunch can’t tell who’s dead or alive then clearly the cinematography isn’t outstanding.
Most of the previous GOT large scale battles, he’ll even most of the large scale battles in Vikings are better.
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@Nepia said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Nepia said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@antipodean said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
The battle cinematography was by and large brilliant.
Did we watch a different episode? 😉 I found the fight cinematography to be average - before even getting into the stupidity of the defence of Winterfell. The Dothraki charge was the best bit of cinematography in the whole battle and also the stupidest scene in terms of the defence.
Agree on the Arya in the library scene though.
You thought the fight cinematography was average? Which battle scenes on the screen have been better?
When half the viewers are complaining about the lightening and a bunch can’t tell who’s dead or alive then clearly the cinematography isn’t outstanding.
Most of the previous GOT large scale battles, he’ll even most of the large scale battles in Vikings are better.
Yeah now you mention it the Battle of the Bastards and the one where Bronn shoots the dragon are probably better due to considerably better lighting.....definitely more ‘replay’ value
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@Nepia said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@antipodean said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
The battle cinematography was by and large brilliant.
Did we watch a different episode? 😉 I found the fight cinematography to be average - before even getting into the stupidity of the defence of Winterfell. The Dothraki charge was the best bit of cinematography in the whole battle and also the stupidest scene in terms of the defence.
Agree on the Arya in the library scene though.
I think what they wanted to show was the confusion wrought in pitched battle, particularly one at night. If this was their intent, they did it excellently.
In terms of lighting and disorientation, it set the scene well, reminding me what it's like when you've got bugger all light to see with - almost as if you're canyoning.
Sure it's theoretically easy having shaky camera and quick perspective edits, but it's another thing to do it well.
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@Nepia said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Nepia said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@antipodean said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
The battle cinematography was by and large brilliant.
Did we watch a different episode? 😉 I found the fight cinematography to be average - before even getting into the stupidity of the defence of Winterfell. The Dothraki charge was the best bit of cinematography in the whole battle and also the stupidest scene in terms of the defence.
Agree on the Arya in the library scene though.
You thought the fight cinematography was average? Which battle scenes on the screen have been better?
When half the viewers are complaining about the lightening and a bunch can’t tell who’s dead or alive then clearly the cinematography isn’t outstanding.
Most of the previous GOT large scale battles, he’ll even most of the large scale battles in Vikings are better.
I dont think half are complaining, I think it is just a few who need better TV's or learn how to adjust the brightness level on the TVs they have.
I think Battle of Bastards was better, I think the battle of the Lannisters vs Daenerys was better, I think battle of Blackwater was worse as it was smaller scale.. and also at night which people complained about..... you think they would ave found the brightness dial in the 5 years they had between ...
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I think hardware, network speed and environment plays a big part in how 'good' the visuals were.
I originally ran it on a usb drive plugged into a laptop with an hdmi to the TV, it meant I could use my wireless earphones but the visuals weren't great. Running direct off of the USB into the TV made a big difference. I couldn't imagine watching it during the day. Darkness was the point, it emphasised the light. Definitely one to re-watch on bluray. In a way its good to get the dark fight out of the way so the final fight should be in light and easier to deal with. -
@antipodean said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Nepia said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@antipodean said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
The battle cinematography was by and large brilliant.
Did we watch a different episode? 😉 I found the fight cinematography to be average - before even getting into the stupidity of the defence of Winterfell. The Dothraki charge was the best bit of cinematography in the whole battle and also the stupidest scene in terms of the defence.
Agree on the Arya in the library scene though.
I think what they wanted to show was the confusion wrought in pitched battle, particularly one at night. If this was their intent, they did it excellently.
In terms of lighting and disorientation, it set the scene well, reminding me what it's like when you've got bugger all light to see with - almost as if you're canyoning.
Sure it's theoretically easy having shaky camera and quick perspective edits, but it's another thing to do it well.
While I take your point I don’t think they did it outstandingly and I don’t feel they made the best use of available light (from the fires etc) when they had it, but I wonder if that was due to that being added in post via effects?
I thought the dragon scenes were the poorest though.
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I can see WHY they filmed it like they did, but I felt they still could have made it a little lighter. I have an HD TV, watched it in the dark, changed the brightness settings on my TV, I just felt it was a bit dark, that said, so many film/tv scenes are filmed in dark moody type scenes,that and making effects sounds much louder than talking.
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@taniwharugby I have terrible eyesight, watched this on a phone and could see it fine.
It was a little dark, but not that bad IMO.