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    hydro11
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    I think I want Cersei to win now. She is the only one who actually is intelligent. Dany or Jon winning after all the mistakes they have made just wouldn't make any sense. Neither is actually a good general. Can anyone think of an historical figure who actually won a series of wars after making such big fuck-ups? Doesn't anyone feel sorry for Robb Stark? He made a couple of minor mistakes and was killed for it. Dany and Jon get unlimited chances.

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    Those ballista were just a bit OP. Semi automatic. Recoiless. Presumably rifled as those bolts flew dead straight. Must have been gimballed as weren’t affected by pitching of the boat. 100 percent accurate at picking out high altitude moving targets. No ranging shots needed. But that could have been because the bolts were unaffected by gravity so no ballistic trajectory to worry about.

    Stealth tech included on the ships too.

    I can see why they weren’t too worried by all those ballista on KL at the end though. They would have hit Doorne before they hit a target 50 feet away. While she’s waiting for Jon Snow to arrive, Cersei should start raining artillery down on Winterfell.

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    https://gfycat.com/nastymarriedamericanbobtail

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    @Crucial I thought same of Arya ... and what happened there!

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    Machpants
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    @Crucial said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    There is some absolutely vicious stuff appearing on fan videos about this season.
    Some folk are really not impressed about how the downward slide has become an avalanche of poor plot devices.
    Not surprising when years have been 'invested' in following the machinations and development to just throw it all away in six episodes.

    There has to be a 'jump the shark' moment that we were all willing to waive away at the time as necessary.

    The journey behind the wall to capture a wight and the bizarre time spans in the narrative were probably the most obvious but I guess that at the time this was viewed as a 'one-off' plot device. Nope, it was foreshadowing a long run of really dumb writing.

    Ramsey Bolton was the last interesting storyline and once that finished the show has appeared to be in a race against itself.

    The other really poor decision has been the misuse of the direwolves. Set up originally as a key (and cool) part of the show they were crazily cast aside as bit piece characters. Right from the early days when Arya's direwolf escaped there was opportunity to have them return to help out. Maybe that will still happen, and Ghost and Nyemeria will add to the battle, but it will seem like a complete afterthought and wasted storyline.

    Writing 8 seasons of awesome is really hard. That's why GRR is taking so fucking long with the books, he wants to get it right. Once the series overtook the books and the stuff directly after (when GRR was giving much more guidance) it al went downhill ie Hollywood. So I'm just trying to enjoy it as Hollywood - instant communication, teleportation, deus-ex-machina, ridiculous plot devices & armour, etc.

    It's hard tho, such a come down.

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    Machpants
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    @hydro11 said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    I think I want Cersei to win now. She is the only one who actually is intelligent. Dany or Jon winning after all the mistakes they have made just wouldn't make any sense. Neither is actually a good general. Can anyone think of an historical figure who actually won a series of wars after making such big fuck-ups? Doesn't anyone feel sorry for Robb Stark? He made a couple of minor mistakes and was killed for it. Dany and Jon get unlimited chances.

    If you get into military history you can see 90% of decisions made are fucking stupid, often from lack of clear information but often from preconceived notions or pride or whatever. So yeah, there are a lot of figures who won despite themselves!

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    JC
    replied to Machpants on last edited by JC
    #1320

    @Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Crucial said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    There is some absolutely vicious stuff appearing on fan videos about this season.
    Some folk are really not impressed about how the downward slide has become an avalanche of poor plot devices.
    Not surprising when years have been 'invested' in following the machinations and development to just throw it all away in six episodes.

    There has to be a 'jump the shark' moment that we were all willing to waive away at the time as necessary.

    The journey behind the wall to capture a wight and the bizarre time spans in the narrative were probably the most obvious but I guess that at the time this was viewed as a 'one-off' plot device. Nope, it was foreshadowing a long run of really dumb writing.

    Ramsey Bolton was the last interesting storyline and once that finished the show has appeared to be in a race against itself.

    The other really poor decision has been the misuse of the direwolves. Set up originally as a key (and cool) part of the show they were crazily cast aside as bit piece characters. Right from the early days when Arya's direwolf escaped there was opportunity to have them return to help out. Maybe that will still happen, and Ghost and Nyemeria will add to the battle, but it will seem like a complete afterthought and wasted storyline.

    Writing 8 seasons of awesome is really hard. That's why GRR is taking so fucking long with the books, he wants to get it right.

    That's very charitable of you, but everybody knows it's really because it's hard to type one-handed while the other one is constantly rewinding and replaying the early scenes of Dany and Missi

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    It was pretty amazing that this series even received the green light. There wasn't even an ending yet and the author himself was still unsure how to wrap it all up. Thumbs up for taking a massive risk that has paid off. Pity it's all gone to shit. I hope to God the fat perv finishes the books but I'm not holding my breath.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel am sure he promised them he'd finish well before they caught up to him...

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    @taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel am sure he promised them he'd finish well before they caught up to him...

    It's not like he hasn't had the time. Creepy fat fůck.

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    Btw, what happened to the knights of the Vale? Can't recall seeing either them or Lord Royce in the battle.

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    Wonder about Arya's death list, if that's got more to run

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    @Siam said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    Wonder about Arya's death list, if that's got more to run

    Cersei and the mountain

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    Cersei's next offspring, is that Jamies or Eurons? Someone mentioned above Tyrion knew cos Jamie told him, but he left prior to Euron arriving and start shagging his sister didnt he?

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    @taniwharugby she was pregnant before Jamie left, and told him about it.

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    taniwharugby
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    #1329

    @Kirwan so is Jamies, but she is telling Euron its his for his army?

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    Kirwan
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    @taniwharugby is Jamie's yes.

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    Won’t Euron be wondering how Tyrion knows that he (Euron) has knocked up Cersei? Or indeed why “his” child has three thumbs?

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    Machpants
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    @JC that'll be a question for the afterlife, cos no way Euron lives

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    Dragons seem to be fucking easy to kill all of a sudden. If there was a CYPs in the 7 Kingdoms the mother of dragons would lose that last one.

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