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@MajorRage said in Brexit:
@Siam Am not yet ... I get half a vote though as my wife thinks I should have a say so we discuss what to vote for before she does just what she wants.
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@Catogrande said in Brexit:
@MajorRage said in Brexit:
@Siam Am not yet ... I get half a vote though as my wife thinks I should have a say so we discuss what to vote for before she does just what she wants.
FIFY
Who am I kidding ... the above is probably accurate!
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@MiketheSnow said in Brexit:
Farage is a one-trick pony - leaving the EU - and when questioned about his domestic policies either ignores or trots out the tired old routine of 'vote us in, we'll get us out (of Europe), and then we'll tell you what we're going to do in and for the UK'
But aside from defeating the Nazis Mr. Churchill, what is your policy subsidies for beekeepers?
Perhaps it is a function of being exposed to MMP in NZ and a bicameral legistlature in Australia but I have no issue with one issue party. If an Australian party were running in the current election for upper house seats on a ticket on abolishing the senate I would not need to know their policy on much else.
I thought the same until I moved to Queensland...
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@Catogrande said in Brexit:
Without the immigrant workers, skilled and unskilled in the NHS it would be fucked.
But isn't that a good example of the managed immigration policy (the UK deciding what qualifications, skills, ability to speak English, etc are needed) that Farage advocates?
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Farage is being a complete twat though. Goes on his second interview in a week on the Beeb and bitches about how the beeb don't give him coverage. The man is learning directly from the orange president
Straight out of the Trump playbook. The BBC interview was dire and simply aided Farage's narrative of a out-of-touch, rich, liberal elite who have let people down. He even used "drain the swamp" when attacking the BBC
And now he's polling higher than labour & the conservatives combined
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You have a point there. I donāt think any sane person is against controlled immigration but in the main that is what we have. Not 100% for sure but that is an impossible wish. I donāt really see that Farage has come up with a feasible policy as yet, itās more of an abstract āthis isnāt working, we have to change itā.
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@Catogrande said in Brexit:
I donāt think any sane person is against controlled immigration but in the main that is what we have.
We don't have controlled immigration with the EU - where the majority of immigration is from.
I donāt really see that Farage has come up with a feasible policy as yet
UKIP's policy under Farage was pretty clear - an Oz-based points system & controlled access to benefits/public services. How effective it would be is another matter
The main immigration policy of the main parties appears to have been to avoid discussing any negative impacts it and/or accuse those worried about its impact on their area or job prospects as racists or bigots. Pretty dumb really.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Brexit:
@Catogrande said in Brexit:
I donāt think any sane person is against controlled immigration but in the main that is what we have.
We don't have controlled immigration with the EU - where the majority of immigration is from.
I think you're confusing immigration with freedom of movement?
I donāt really see that Farage has come up with a feasible policy as yet
UKIP's policy under Farage was pretty clear - an Oz-based points system & controlled access to benefits/public services. How effective it would be is another matter
Clearly stated but in reality pretty vague. No real answers except go with what Aus does, not even acknowledging that our situation is quite different to that of Aus.
The main immigration policy of the main parties appears to have been to avoid discussing any negative impacts it and/or accuse those worried about its impact on their area or job prospects as racists or bigots. Pretty dumb really.
Agree wholeheartedly and this is why Farage has achieved the traction that he has. If having Farage around goes anyway to getting our pollies to address these concerns he would have been worthwhile.
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@Catogrande said in Brexit:
I think you're confusing immigration with freedom of movement?
Same thing. EU freedom of movement = open borders/zero immigration control.
If having Farage around goes anyway to getting our pollies to address these concerns he would have been worthwhile.
Not convinced as a whole they even want to understand the concerns that whole swathes of the population have on immigration. Like the Brexit referendum result, they hope if they ignore it, it will go away.
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Great call in the comments section
MaxNronnie
You could do with throwing more food fatty
Get your sugar intake down
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@MiketheSnow said in Brexit:
Great call in the comments section
MaxNronnie
You could do with throwing more food fatty
Get your sugar intake down
14 hours agoIt's probably fat nards like him not foreigners who are clogging up the NHS.
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I see that Brexit is gettig blamed for the collapse of Jamie Oliverās restaurant empire. Is nothing sacred?
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Brexit:
I see that Brexit is gettig blamed for the collapse of Jamie Oliverās restaurant empire. Is nothing sacred?
If that's factually correct it may well sway my view on Brexit...
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Brexit:
I see that Brexit is gettig blamed for the collapse of Jamie Oliverās restaurant empire. Is nothing sacred?
Bit of a misrepresentation there.
Brexit was mentioned as part of a complete cocktail of market forces that hadnāt helped.
Brexit will have impacted restaurant chains such as Oliverās simply because his target market is the middle of the road punter that isnāt food adventurous. These same folk are also generally cautious about everything.
He was providing an option that no one was interested in. No excitement for spend or value for money. No one Instagrams a bowl of overpriced pasta unless to pint out how overpriced it is.
Heās a victim of himself really as he has spent all his time showing people how easy it is to make this food then has expected them to pay for something they can easily make at home.
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