Coronavirus - Overall
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I took an alpha male test with work colleagues today. If a mad max scenario was to play out.
The results were extremely favorable for me. I will be a hunter-gatherer and should I wish to take a wife, to add to the existing one, I can have the pick of the tribe. My number-crunching boss did not fare so well. He will help with the "women's" work. Assisting with cooking, childrearing and will be rendered a eunuch.
So I've got that going for me.
I did hear today that local government employees have been told there will be a lockdown from Monday for 2 weeks.
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@antipodean ive seen overflowing trolleys with either water or toilet paper in multiple supermarkets. So they aren’t here.
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@Frank said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Mokey said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Every time I see another tweet or story about how lax authorities are being at our airports in regards to travellers coming in (especially from known hotspots), I get more concerned. Like seriously? A fucking pamphlet and off you go?
Here in Taiwan, if you are ordered to self-isolate, you get given a cheap cell phone with a GPS locator on it. You get called at random times.
If you don't answer it or the cellphone comes up not at your address - instant fine.
The leader of your community (apartment complex) checks on you once per day at random times.
NZ should look into this.
Ya can't do that! ... it's a violation of fundamental human rights, an illegal violation no less, very hurtful and uncomfortableness - unacceptable and inappropriate, misogynistic, wacist too. Jemimah Khan and Geoffrey Robertson will be onto you!
Anyway, if ya do, you'll end up with Callum Assange, or whatever he is named, releasing the names and addresses of the coppers' families on Wikileaks, being pronounced courageous, threatening to off himself and escaping into the Eritrean Embassy to spare sane people his presence.
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Iran, Italy and China are countries with high numbers of elderly who were heavy smokers all through their lives. I believe this in some way explains why their death toll is higher. When they get this virus, their lungs inevitably are unable to respond and shut down.
Plus very cold still air in the Winter. -
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@chimoaus said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
@Donsteppa I'm not concerned about my own risk of dying, I'm more concerned about the vulnerable people and economic fallout from it. What happens to the world economies as they come to a stand still whilst we wait to flatten the curve.
I'm thinking it's doable - it'll take whatever we can do to get economies through the demand shock/get past it quicker. Everything ranging from individuals buying (perhaps online) - a wider range of goods than the proverbial panic bought bog paper, through to some of the 'get through' government support packages starting to be announced everywhere.
I think those government interventions will only increase in intensity as things go, especially for service industries, businesses, and their employees where there is no alternative to the flow of people to generate cash.
That said, I wouldn't like to be in one of the Venezuela's of the world right now. We're all fortunate enough on TSF to be in places with first class health systems and economies........
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So aside from TP, pasta etc the supermarkets I frequent have been well stocked ... until today when there is no frozen veggies or cans of soup at all. Even Aldi was cleared out ....
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Word is that Oz going into lockdown as of Thursday, only essential businesses allowed to be open...
Damn I hope not ... what do they consider essential, and how long for? I might have to start eating the rice I have in the cupboard, and I don't eat rice!
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Christ..a work colleague just messaged after hearing about my brother getting home. Her nephew just started his OE in France and has said he is looking to head home, she was wondering how he would do that. Sadly considering the country is now on lockdown I think he might just have to ride this out in France, hopefully he knows some folk there.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Word is that Oz going into lockdown as of Thursday, only essential businesses allowed to be open...
Got a source on that? Not doubting it at all in fact I'd say its necessary, just want to let some folk know. Should be looking at nearly double todays infections by then.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Word is that Oz going into lockdown as of Thursday, only essential businesses allowed to be open...
That would be an economic disaster. I'd be astonished if it were true, because that would certainly cement the Morrison Government as the first in ~27 years to experience a recession. Unless of course they realise that's unavoidable now.
Timely excerpt from an article in The Australian:
But sadly, nowhere more so than in Australia, governments have been infected by a political hubris much more potent than in earlier times. Keynesian economists who (at least in Australia) reign over the Treasury and Reserve Bank and much of the commentariat have promoted a response to downturns with the policy of trying to stimulate aggregate demand.
It may well be that our fears of a new disease have brought an exaggerated response by the community and governments, but the coming world economic meltdown is now unstoppable. It will be the first in over a century that has not resulted from war or government economic mismanagement.
But even the coronavirus has come at a time when the world economy is vulnerable due to unbalanced government budgets and loose monetary policy that have brought high national indebtedness and inflated asset prices.
Back in 2017, Ronald Reagan’s former budget director, David Stockman, was warning that the stock exchange boom could not be sustained in light of Trump’s loose fiscal policies and the debt at 105 per cent of GDP (compared with 30 per cent prior to the Reagan boom). In July last year Stockman predicted a 40 per cent drop in stock prices.
This now looks prescient. But much more important than a stock price correction is the correction of the real economy that can easily be impeded by the pump-priming policies.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
Word is that Oz going into lockdown as of Thursday, only essential businesses allowed to be open...
Shit that is going to have some serious consequences. Problem is for how long? When do you relax the rules, when there are no new cases?
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No source I can quote, a friend who is CEO of a large listed entity got it from a friend he considers reputable. Take it as you will. Stuff seems to change by the hour at the moment anyway right?
By essential, I take that to mean doctors, pharmacies and supermarkets and very little else.
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@R-L said in Coronavirus - Overall/Rest of the World:
You lot told me to vote for Boris
Not really we told you NOT to vote for Jezza. He would likely be treating the pandemic with homeopathy cures.
It might work - worth trying?