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@victor-meldrew said in US Politics:
Current lot make you yearn for Slick Willie and Dubya.
I think this is a common theme, that we look back, even on the pollies that we didn't like at the time and feel they were not quite as shithouse as the current lot. Personally I doubt that it is really true but we are all a little "things were much better back in the day" but also things now seem so much more magnified due to information overload. it's all out there and in your face, all the time.
Much easier to be judgemental these days I feel.
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Fair point. Perhaps it goes in cycles and we are at the bottom.
And maybe the increase in being judgemental and more tribal is down to the media. Much more difficult to find honest, impartial analysis these days. Papers like The FT & The Economist often seem to take a political stance now.
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@victor-meldrew Trump essentially emerged from the media or at least the entertainment/celebrity space. Wider media (across the spectrum) have a lot to answer for, as they've happily poured fire and shoddy info on the dumpster fire, but the whole phenomenon of Trump connecting directly via Twitter etc was a step change imo.
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@donsteppa oh I basically agreed with you
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I'm a bit concerned that provocative media makes for more engaged readers/listeners hence actual investigative journalism will be thrown out of the window for more clicks/eyes/ears. Perhaps it already has.
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@nostrildamus Matt taibbi explains the business of media very well in his book Hate Inc
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@paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@victor-meldrew Trump essentially emerged from the media or at least the entertainment/celebrity space. Wider media (across the spectrum) have a lot to answer for, as they've happily poured fire and shoddy info on the dumpster fire, but the whole phenomenon of Trump connecting directly via Twitter etc was a step change imo.
Seems to me Trump was a reaction against the way the Democrats, particularly under Obama & Hilary Clinton, didn't just dismiss the concerns of swathes of the US electorate, they appeared to actually loathe those voters. Similar thing happened in the UK.
Trump played social media really well but I think in acting as judge & jury and banning him, the likes of Twitter & Facebook have probably let the regulation genie out of the bottle.
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@nostrildamus said in US Politics:
I'm a bit concerned that provocative media makes for more engaged readers/listeners hence actual investigative journalism will be thrown out of the window for more clicks/eyes/ears. Perhaps it already has.
That and feeding the prejudices of your readers to keep them happy.
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The Pentagon official tasked with leading efforts to crack down on extremist views among military servicemembers once asserted that backers of former President Donald Trump were also supporters of racism, misogyny and extremism.
The official, Bishop Garrison, is a senior adviser to Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and head of the Pentagon’s Countering Extremism Working Group. Garrison expressed his view in a series of tweets on July 27, 2019.
"Silence from our Congressional leaders is complicity," Garrison tweeted. "He is only going to get worse from here, & his party and its leadership are watching it happen while doing nothing to stop it. Support for him, a racist, is support for ALL his beliefs."
"He's dragging a lot of bad actors (misogynist, extremists, other racists) out into the light, normalizing their actions," he added. "If you support the President, you support that. There is no room for nuance with this. There is no more "but I'm not like that" talk."
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Not sure if it was a factor in the purchase but has Trump made an error in pissing off someone richer than him?
Bezos’ purchase of MGM has him now owning all of the material from The Apprentice including the outtakes and edited out bits.
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@frank said in US Politics:
ha ha tough guy
Apparently the previous(?) movie made $400 million in China. That's a lot of reasons to apologise.
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I feel like there should be some arrests made and charges laid for that. Putting a kid through that is such a horrible thing to do.
When you look at the atrocities of the 20th century - Germany, Russia, China etc you wonder how on earth that happened. Then you read things like the above where people appear completely obsessed by their political ideology and it starts to become clear.
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