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But just remember, this has NOTHING to do with Islam guys.
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<p>But just remember, this has NOTHING to do with Islam guys.</p>
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<p>His father has been busy apologising and saying it has nothing to do with islam and yet he rang the police to pledge allegiance to ISIS before he started shooting and the father openly supports the Taliban.</p> -
Apparently ISIS are claiming responsibility....
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<p>Apparently pledging your allegiance to ISIS and telling authorities that you are doing it in the name of ISIS is not enough for Obama to say it is act of Islamic terror.</p>
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<p>What a gutless prick he is.</p>
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<p>In a place as fucked up as parts of the States ( I say parts, some are beautiful and on the list of places I'm going to next year and I'm reluctant to tar the whole country with the same brush ) I find it really surprising that it took until now for someone to beat Martin Bryants effort in Port Arthur 20 years ago ( that one was so chilling cos it was so close to home ).</p>
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<p>Perhaps I'm perpetuating stereotypes by offering the reason that he's less likely to get any aggressive resistance from a group of Gays ? I don't think he'd have as much success at a Redneck cookout......</p> -
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<p>Apparently pledging your allegiance to ISIS and telling authorities that you are doing it in the name of ISIS is not enough for Obama to say it is act of Islamic terror.</p>
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<p>What a gutless prick he is.</p>
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<p>Worst news is that Trump will get a bump from all of this.</p>
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<p>Trump is all over this on Twitter.</p>
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<p style="font-size:26px;"><strong><span style="font-size:18px;">Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!</span></strong></p>
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<p>Trump is all over this on Twitter.</p>
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<p style="font-size:26px;"><strong><span style="font-size:18px;">Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!</span></strong></p>
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<p>"Appreciate the congrats......"</p>
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<p>What. A. Cock.</p>
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Perhaps I'm perpetuating stereotypes by offering the reason that he's less likely to get any aggressive resistance from a group of Gays ? I don't think he'd have as much success at a Redneck cookout......</p></blockquote>
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Probably. The target group is never usually a biker gang in Texas...<br><br>
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<p>No. It was some guy named Donald Baron?</p>
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Probably. The target group is never usually a biker gang in Texas...<br><br>
But when a guy walks into the local pub/club etc with a couple of automatic weapons, I don't think people are going to have a lot of options generally</p>
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The commentary on this has been a bit weird. You have a Muslim extremist who just massacred 50 people because they were gay. This is a guy who is on record as pledging allegiance to IS. Yet apparently the major issue here is gun control? Seriously?
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<p>The commentary on this has been a bit weird. You have a Muslim extremist who just massacred 50 people because they were gay. This is a guy who is on record as pledging allegiance to IS. Yet apparently the major issue here is gun control? Seriously?</p>
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<p>I think it is <strong>an</strong> issue, given this is the 18th time Obama has had to address the nation after a mass shooting. I haven't seen all the media about it so I couldn't say what is the <em>major</em> issue.</p>
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<p>Look at it this way:</p>
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<p>Guns are a physical thing. Regulation of guns - not all of them, just the super-duper-shooty ones - could help prevent such things. I think it could reduce the incidence, but I'm only going off the evidence of what is NOT the USA, and therefore that theory might have no validity.</p>
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<p>Islam is a religion/idea/philosophy - you can't really regulate it as a physical thing. Many agencies in the USA are involved in trying to stop shit like this happening, but they still happen.</p>
Guns?.........or is that the least of the problems?