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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11996677

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    Doesnt this belong in the conspiracy thread?

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    @virgil said in Gregor Paul: How World Rugby conspired against the All Blacks:

    Doesnt this belong in the conspiracy thread?

    It's already in there isn't in?

    But does it really fit in with all the loony conspiracies?

    Hmmm, do I have any tinfoil in the kitchen?

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    @Virgil @Nepia Yeah I put it in the Conspiracy theories as a bit of a joke.

    I don't think there is any conspiracy, but he does point out some inconsistencies and does make some good points.

    But every sports fan feels their team is being picked on.

    It's just true in our case ...

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    While i don't think it points to conspiracy against the ABs i think it definitely points to World Rugby being incompetent and threatening the integrity of the game.
    Pretty much every team could make a list similar to this from the last 10-15 years. It shouldn't happen though.

    Just off the top of my head for the Boks they could include the card to Bismark for a good tackle on Carter. A similar card for Vermuelan for smashing a Wallaby. The reffing of the 2011 Qtr against the Wallabies and im sure there are plenty more.

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    Hanlon's razor applies here. World Rugby are too incompetent to be master-minding a conspiracy.

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    Such a stupid article. Which individuals does he think are leading this crusade? I’m pretty sure NZ has representation at World Rugby. Have these guys been turned? It’s just another of these ridiculous Them vs Us pieces.

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    The Greyling one still amazes me.

    and I don’t trust Gosper for some reason.

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    @pukunui said in Gregor Paul: How World Rugby conspired against the All Blacks:

    Just off the top of my head for the Boks they could include the card to Bismark for a good tackle on Carter. A similar card for Vermuelan for smashing a Wallaby. The reffing of the 2011 Qtr against the Wallabies and im sure there are plenty more.

    A loss to Ireland due to a very bad call enraged Bok fans a few years back.

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    @chester-draws said in Gregor Paul: How World Rugby conspired against the All Blacks:

    @pukunui said in Gregor Paul: How World Rugby conspired against the All Blacks:

    Just off the top of my head for the Boks they could include the card to Bismark for a good tackle on Carter. A similar card for Vermuelan for smashing a Wallaby. The reffing of the 2011 Qtr against the Wallabies and im sure there are plenty more.

    A loss to Ireland due to a very bad call enraged Bok fans a few years back.

    That the "talk to your team" ... "nah play on play on .. " call?

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    The fact that Powell wasn't cited was always dodgy as hell. The whole process is so damn random, but I guess that applies to everyone.

    I'd actually forgotten/surpressed what that dodgy frog bastard did in the Lions series. Just imagine if it had been the other way round.

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    Yeah, that's the one. I generally don't get too worked up about ref's calls, especially if my teams aren't playing, but that was atrocious. Possibly the worst call I have ever seen in many decades of watching the game. He literally told them to stop playing and then let the other side play on.

    NZ have had a few shockers, but we also have a few soft ones when refs favour us because we are expected to win.

    We've now won two RWCs, so some might think we are overly dominant, but that doesn't explain events before 2015, because we hadn't at that point (and we had a record of not doing well under the expectation of a RWC).

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Gregor Paul: How World Rugby conspired against the All Blacks:

    The fact that Powell wasn't cited was always dodgy as hell. The whole process is so damn random, but I guess that applies to everyone.

    I'd actually forgotten/surpressed what that dodgy frog bastard did in the Lions series. Just imagine if it had been the other way round.

    Yep, there would likely be a whole article by some dodgy journo wailing about a conspiracy. 😆

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    Watch McCaw get up, he was very groggy.

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    Not even a penalty for that. Forget about a citing.

    Really pathetic level of rule enforcement.

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    Forgetting about who etc, the ref for that powell incident should been dragged over the coals for player safety.

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    @catogrande said in Gregor Paul: How World Rugby conspired against the All Blacks:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Gregor Paul: How World Rugby conspired against the All Blacks:

    The fact that Powell wasn't cited was always dodgy as hell. The whole process is so damn random, but I guess that applies to everyone.

    I'd actually forgotten/surpressed what that dodgy frog bastard did in the Lions series. Just imagine if it had been the other way round.

    Yep, there would likely be a whole article by some dodgy journo wailing about a conspiracy. 😆

    Just one?

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    To say that there is some kind of plan to get the ABs is plain stupid. Everybody gets controversial decisions.

    However, there is a decent case that WR react differently to controversies in the NH. Maybe it's because of media pressure/appearance sake etc but they have built a list of evidence that they react to public and media questioning far more when it happens up north than they do to anything in the SH.

    I just think that WR individuals get put under more personal pressure when things happen around them and they can't/don't ignore the situation.

    I really do think that if the Lions 3rd test situation had been the other way around there would have been a statement from WR about it. The fish heads wouldn't have been able to have a drink in peace until it was cleared up.

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    @unite said in Gregor Paul: How World Rugby conspired against the All Blacks:

    The Greyling one still amazes me.

    and I don’t trust Gosper for some reason.

    He Australian. Do you need another reason?

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    @crucial they were pretty quick to come out and say we got it wrong with the TMO in the Wales v England game, although this one didnt really decide the outcome did it, so less controversial?

    I still think the penalty we copped in the 2nd test for 'tackling SInckler in the air' as he was hurdling a player on the ground was as bigger fuck up as the 'we have a deal'

    but neither really points to a conspiracy

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