Electric Vehicles
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@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@chimoaus police is a very different operation, compared to other services. Never thought about it like that.
Nearby superchargers will help
Depends how many hours a day a police car is usually at base / on the road. If there is sufficient time at base and they install all the right charging apparatus it will be fine.
Public reaction to seeing government cars taking up valuable super Charger spots could be interesting tho.
Police cars generally spend a lot of time on the road. General duty cars are often used 24 hours. Traffic cars may have 8 hours off the road a day depending on staff levels and rostering. The problem is though, even if a police car is not being used it needs to be ready to go in case it is needed.
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@mariner4life said in Electric Vehicles:
@Snowy said in Electric Vehicles:
@chimoaus said in Electric Vehicles:
I understand the electric system is more durable than combustion engines?
Something like 20 moving parts compared to an ICE with 200 - 1500 depending on who you believe / what you include.
Fuel cost saving of 70%, service cost saving a bit over 50%
BYD to install wireless electric bus chargers to deliver 500km range
BYD to provide 33-strong electric bus fleet with 300kW wireless inductive charging infrastructure to Indianapolis.
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@NTA interesting. We have a similar system that provides the same outcome. Trying to get it over the line in a certain part of NSW. It's not wireless though, which I admit is pretty cool.
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@mariner4life roof mounted systems are the thing I reckon. Like suburban trains
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Noise for pedestrians because electric vehicles are quiet...
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@antipodean was a discussion point early on from Tesla as well.
Question is: how will it help fuckwits who have airpods in all the time?
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@NTA should be able to broadcast direct to airpods... "watch out dumbass, it's a car!!"
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@Paekakboyz Apple will never go for it
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Today I had the experience of sitting between two people who were comparing their anxieties about having recently lost another bar on their Leaf’s battery health. His has dropped to 11 and the hers has dropped to 8. I can’t be arsed finding out what they started with but she sounded concerned, especially when he told her that they are 9 grand plus labour to replace. Interestingly neither owner knows what exactly happens to th old battery pack. They are just sure they’ll be recycled, somehow.
The whole conversation didn’t put my doubts to bed.
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@JC said in Electric Vehicles:
Today I had the experience of sitting between two people who were comparing their anxieties about having recently lost another bar on their Leaf’s battery health. His has dropped to 11 and the hers has dropped to 8. I can’t be arsed finding out what they started with but she sounded concerned, especially when he told her that they are 9 grand plus labour to replace. Interestingly neither owner knows what exactly happens to th old battery pack. They are just sure they’ll be recycled, somehow.
The whole conversation didn’t put my doubts to bed.
What were you attending to find yourself in such a position? Some sort of festival celebrating vegan BBQ food?
I have to admit that almost all of my skepticism around EV is from my iphone. I'm still not convinced battery tech is good enough to accurately predict range etc. I genuinely think I'd be panicky at 50% of battery gone.
I'll be happy to be proven wrong as times goes on.
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I wonder how long before the Aus Govt introduces a kilometre road user tax like NZ does with diesel. No doubt they will have to do something as more electric cars come on line their tax from fuel will shrink. They have to pay for roads somehow.
Also I wonder if you will get large supercharging rest stops with associated Mcdonalds etc to replace the Servos.
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@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
@JC said in Electric Vehicles:
Today I had the experience of sitting between two people who were comparing their anxieties about having recently lost another bar on their Leaf’s battery health. His has dropped to 11 and the hers has dropped to 8. I can’t be arsed finding out what they started with but she sounded concerned, especially when he told her that they are 9 grand plus labour to replace. Interestingly neither owner knows what exactly happens to th old battery pack. They are just sure they’ll be recycled, somehow.
The whole conversation didn’t put my doubts to bed.
What were you attending to find yourself in such a position? Some sort of festival celebrating vegan BBQ food?
I have to admit that almost all of my skepticism around EV is from my iphone. I'm still not convinced battery tech is good enough to accurately predict range etc. I genuinely think I'd be panicky at 50% of battery gone.
I'll be happy to be proven wrong as times goes on.
The chemistry in portable device batteries is a bit distant from cars.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
The chemistry in portable device batteries is a bit distant from cars.
... and that's where the research and technology is. Keeping the batteries in optimum condition, cooled appropriately, and charged right. It's pretty impressive, and there are a heap of advances continuing to incrementally improve them, every year.
Thing is, it doesn't matter what individuals really think in the short term. If EVs get to the right performance and price point, it'll be like incandescent lightbulbs - you can have one if you really want, but everyone buys LED because they're cheaper to run and last longer. I think that tipping point is approaching rapidly, which is a good thing.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
@JC said in Electric Vehicles:
Today I had the experience of sitting between two people who were comparing their anxieties about having recently lost another bar on their Leaf’s battery health. His has dropped to 11 and the hers has dropped to 8. I can’t be arsed finding out what they started with but she sounded concerned, especially when he told her that they are 9 grand plus labour to replace. Interestingly neither owner knows what exactly happens to th old battery pack. They are just sure they’ll be recycled, somehow.
The whole conversation didn’t put my doubts to bed.
What were you attending to find yourself in such a position? Some sort of festival celebrating vegan BBQ food?
I have to admit that almost all of my skepticism around EV is from my iphone. I'm still not convinced battery tech is good enough to accurately predict range etc. I genuinely think I'd be panicky at 50% of battery gone.
I'll be happy to be proven wrong as times goes on.
The chemistry in portable device batteries is a bit distant from cars.
Genuine question ... how much different? I don't read as much car mags as I used to, but it's not that long ago since regularly reading that car batteries are basically a few thousand laptop batteries stuck together.
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@MajorRage it's a common misconception. They share a lot in terms of form factor (physical
structuredimensions) but the cycle count and dis/charge properties - differences in power and energy - are significant. Cost changes accordingly.
BU-205: Types of Lithium-ion
Become familiar with the many different types of lithium-ion batteries: Lithium Cobalt Oxide, Lithium Manganese Oxide, Lithium Iron Phosphate and more.
That page has a fairly good summary of the different types of lithium.
Note: Cobalt is one of the biggest sticking points in battery manufacture, as it is found in some places with low ethical standards (African countries where child labour happens etc). Therefore the race is on to get Cobalt out of the mix.
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@MajorRage No I’m actually working with these people and like them. Even though he’s an accountant with ethnic tats, a beard, ear gauges, a keep cup with short-long-blacks seemingly permanently affixed to his right hand and a dubious craft beer habit. She’s fine, just a hippie with an interesting past.
