Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12243206
Yeah fuck right off.
I'm all for redemption and second chances but not in this case. I hope our Government has the backbone to tell the British Government where to go.
I've read way more about this than perhaps I should have and it's absolutely horrifying what they did to that little boy.
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@MN5 this was mooted about a dozen or so years back as well I think, NZ, Aus & Canada were as possible 'destinations' then too
He'd need to go to maybe the US for an English speaking country where he could probably have some anonymity (although many would argue he doesnt deserve it)
From what I had heard/read about it, during incarceration one of the boys (assume it is this Venebles) simply didnt give a rats about what they did, and was a right piece of work
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@taniwharugby said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@MN5 this was mooted about a dozen or so years back as well I think, NZ, Aus & Canada were as possible 'destinations' then too
He'd need to go to maybe the US for an English speaking country where he could probably have some anonymity (although many would argue he doesnt deserve it)
From what I had heard/read about it, one of the boys simply didnt give a rats about what they did, and was a right piece of work
I guess the issue the authorities have is that the moment they make his identity known they effectively sign his death sentence so I can see the logic.
Just means british taxpayers have had to pay to keep his identity a secret. Lucky them. I completely see why they are sick of it and want to ship him off to be someone elses problem.
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@MN5 said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@MN5 this was mooted about a dozen or so years back as well I think, NZ, Aus & Canada were as possible 'destinations' then too
He'd need to go to maybe the US for an English speaking country where he could probably have some anonymity (although many would argue he doesnt deserve it)
From what I had heard/read about it, one of the boys simply didnt give a rats about what they did, and was a right piece of work
I guess the issue the authorities have is that the moment they make his identity known they effectively sign his death sentence so I can see the logic.
Just means british taxpayers have had to pay to keep his identity a secret. Lucky them. I completely see why they are sick of it and want to ship him off to be someone elses problem.
And they should understand why no one wants him
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@canefan said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@MN5 said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@MN5 this was mooted about a dozen or so years back as well I think, NZ, Aus & Canada were as possible 'destinations' then too
He'd need to go to maybe the US for an English speaking country where he could probably have some anonymity (although many would argue he doesnt deserve it)
From what I had heard/read about it, one of the boys simply didnt give a rats about what they did, and was a right piece of work
I guess the issue the authorities have is that the moment they make his identity known they effectively sign his death sentence so I can see the logic.
Just means british taxpayers have had to pay to keep his identity a secret. Lucky them. I completely see why they are sick of it and want to ship him off to be someone elses problem.
And they should understand why no one wants him
Completely.
Does anyone know if these two have some sort of "Joe Karem" type figures in their lives ? it would appear not.
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@MN5 said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12243206
Yeah fuck right off.
I'm all for redemption and second chances but not in this case. I hope our Government has the backbone to tell the British Government where to go.
I've read way more about this than perhaps I should have and it's absolutely horrifying what they did to that little boy.
Don't they have a longstanding tradition to send their unwanted criminals to Australia going back well over 100 years?
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@MN5 thing is, be damn tough to keep thier identity secret in NZ too, such a massive story, to a lesser extent in Aus, some remote places they could live with anonymity, but id say large parts of the US they could live safely, as long as it is in fact kept secret.
Ultimately, unless they just get shipped somewhere with both Govt. not saying anything, there will always be a backlash with people not wanting him.
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We absolutely should not take criminals like this, UKs problem not ours.
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The article seems to make an assumption that the British government is free to send people anywhere that they like. In the rush for a sensational article, they may have forgotten that the days of the Empire are long gone...
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Yes he’s the reoffending one.
No idea what the right solution is. Locked in a cage and studied maybe? Gotta be a bit to learn from these psychopaths
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@Donsteppa said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
The article seems to make an assumption that the British government is free to send people anywhere that they like. In the rush for a sensational article, they may have forgotten that the days of the Empire are long gone...
Yeah it's complete BS. As mentioned above, they've talked about sending him to the "colonies" for years. No way in hell we'll take him. Any govt that signed off on that would be crucified.
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@MajorRage said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
Yes he’s the reoffending one.
No idea what the right solution is. Locked in a cage and studied maybe? Gotta be a bit to learn from these psychopaths
I'm all for that. Give a little page idea maybe ?
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@MN5 said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12243206
Yeah fuck right off.
I'm all for redemption and second chances but not in this case. I hope our Government has the backbone to tell the British Government where to go.
I've read way more about this than perhaps I should have and it's absolutely horrifying what they did to that little boy.
Richie Hardcore is probably sending a text to Ardern as we speak.
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hope this doesnt end up on Iain Lees-Galloways desk....
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Besides the fact that nobody wants to import child killers...sending anyone here would be a stupid idea. You can't be anonymous in a country with 4.5m people, all it would take is one awkward question and it's up and down the nation.
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@Mokey said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
Besides the fact that nobody wants to import child killers...sending anyone here would be a stupid idea. You can't be anonymous in a country with 4.5m people, all it would take is one awkward question and it's up and down the nation.
I've seen Chernobyl. Maybe they could send him there to walk round in a pair of undies and test how radioactive certain areas are ?
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@Mokey That was my first thought as well. Hard to remain anonymous in NZ.
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@MajorRage said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
Yes he’s the reoffending one.
No idea what the right solution is. Locked in a cage and studied maybe? Gotta be a bit to learn from these psychopaths
Isn't the other one the "ring leader" though? The actual psycho that they couldn't get through to (obviously both very f'd kids) but Venables was more public because of the re offending. I think that nut job no 1 is also overseas (I won't say where) - shows how hard it is to keep this quiet. Even I know a bit about it.
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@Snowy said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@MajorRage said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
Yes he’s the reoffending one.
No idea what the right solution is. Locked in a cage and studied maybe? Gotta be a bit to learn from these psychopaths
Isn't the other one the "ring leader" though? The actual psycho that they couldn't get through to (obviously both very f'd kids) but Venables was more public because of the re offending. I think that nut job no 1 is also overseas (I won't say where) - shows how hard it is to keep this quiet. Even I know a bit about it.
Jesus Christ.......losing a kid like that would be unthinkable......but then again imagine hearing one of your kids was responsible for a murder like that ? My boys are 9 and 11. Either side of the killers when they committed the crime.
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@Snowy said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
Hard to remain anonymous in NZ.
Although not if you’re Fifita and it’s a ruck...
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@ACT-Crusader said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
Hard to remain anonymous in NZ.
Although not if you’re Fifita and it’s a ruck...
Holy shit, amazing how you can find humour in the most unusual places sometimes.
Hats off.
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@MN5 said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@ACT-Crusader said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
Hard to remain anonymous in NZ.
Although not if you’re Fifita and it’s a ruck...
Holy shit, amazing how you can find humour in the most unusual places sometimes.
Hats off.
It would probably have got more laughs if I mentioned Reuben Thorne but a more contemporary name seemed appropriate.
As for the actual issue, I don’t think the public will ever find out where this individual is moved if he is indeed moved.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@MN5 said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@ACT-Crusader said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@Snowy said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
Hard to remain anonymous in NZ.
Although not if you’re Fifita and it’s a ruck...
Holy shit, amazing how you can find humour in the most unusual places sometimes.
Hats off.
It would probably have got more laughs if I mentioned Reuben Thorne but a more contemporary name seemed appropriate.
As for the actual issue, I don’t think the public will ever find out where this individual is moved if he is indeed moved.
Thompson’s new identity is protect by an unprecedented injunction, which applies around the world, meaning that even searching for his address could lead to a prison sentence.
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Genuine input, wouldn't Australia be more agreeable to negotiations for something like this? By no means am I conflating the boat arrivals with this monster, simply that both Australia and the UK seem to be attempting to settle others elsewhere.
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Hard to fathom why this homicidal creep didn’t have the key thrown away after they locked him up.
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@Crucial said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12243475
Yeah , I’m sure we can trust her word on this given her administrations record with child abusers .
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@jegga wonder if your mate Goli has an opinion on this...at least we know Winny aint gonna let this happen, and we know he is pulling the strings anyway
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@taniwharugby said in Child killer of 2-year-old James Bulger, Jon Venables, might be sent to New Zealand:
@jegga wonder if your mate Goli has an opinion on this...at least we know Winny aint gonna let this happen, and we know he is pulling the strings anyway
If inciting genocide is just being a pop singer I’m sure she has her own weird way of playing down what these sociopaths did .
It turns out her round the clock security she needs is an out and out lie . I’d love to know what the greens actually think of her , she’s done them no favours .
In other important news any updates on Neves birthday cake?
