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  • SiamS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Duluth
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    Hair of the dog after the world cup blinder?

    Aus batting looks much superior than England. More experience and 3 batsmen with an awful lot to prove. I guess the poms add Butler and Stokes but there were some unfamiliar top order bats in the England game, with some odd techniques. Aus warm up game didn't do much for the batsmen though.

    Bowling will be interesting. You'd think the English would exploit their conditions better and Broad and Woakes are reliable. Aus must play Pattinson. He got one of those chicken wire wrapped vertebrae ops from that surgeon in Christchurch, like Bondy and Corey got, a couple of years ago. Some Aus first class players told me he's really quite scary to face and he's really highly rated, as Hohns delighted in his press conference. I think he's a bit like Bondy, in ability and importance to a team.

    So yeah, I'm unashamedly spruiking for big Jimmy.

    Smith is going to get a shit ton of runs and the Aussies will take it 3-2. (?). Weather might be influential

    Dunno but should be a cracking series. Both teams vulnerable in their own way, but Aussie with loads to play for, poms riding a cricket wave after being crowned world champions of boundary count backs, and I wonder if the team with most Ashes caps will prevail.

    Should be more interesting than the last Ashes, anyway. And there'll be some langer and ponting "not crossing the line" antics at some stage I'll wager

    Bring it on, too much sport is never enough!

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    @Siam said in Ashes 2019:

    Smith is going to get a shit ton of runs and the Aussies will take it 3-2. (?). Weather might be influential

    I dunno - England at home may edge it. The thing is we just don't know; the Aussie batting may be excellent, but if the home crowds fire up, who knows how they cope.

    Going to be tasty. I hate to bet against Aus in this from of the game, but home advantage could be influential

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    First test will likely be all about the bowling conditions, until each line up gets used to the ball nipping around for longer periods. So maybe low first innings scores to make it extra spicy!
    Picking smith to go on a rampage. But overall they appear reasonably even in terms of squad strength.

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    It will be interesting to see if the Sheffield Shield duke ball experiment helps the Aussies adjust quicker than other tours

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    Who would you drop for Pattinson?

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Both a bit frail against the moving ball.

    Biggest difference imo is Khawaja should be 1 billion percent better than England's number 3, so Smith should have a good chance to dominate the series, unlike Root with 2 Lance Cairns and 1 Ewen Chatfield in his top 3.

    Conditions and Duke ball means Aussie pacemen's prowess will be a bit wasted on 'this shit'. Siddle needs to play, and 2 out of 4 amazeballs pacemen (Starc, Pattinson, Cummins, Hazlewood) need to sit this out.

    Aus should win IMO, both teams have amazed me with their ineptness at times the last 4 or 5 years in test cricket, could go either way.

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    replied to nzzp on last edited by
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    @nzzp yeah it's one of those match up where your mind see saws the more you think about it

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    replied to Siam on last edited by
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    @Siam I agree. Feels like we're wasting electrons, eh ... just no idea how this goes. That's what makes it interesting too I guess 🙂

    Question for me now is who would make me happier if they won? I think I lean towards the English... but then I feel a bit ill

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    @Duluth apparently Neser got the nod due to his bowling with the dukes.

    For some context, in Brisbane premier club cricket last season, 1st half with kookaburras, 24 centuries, 2nd half with dukes (and summer hardened wickets), 5 centuries

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    replied to nzzp on last edited by Siam
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    @nzzp yeah man, the whole thing is 50/50. It's great.

    I'll have to see which team I warm to but it's always entertaining watching aus fans turn on their team following losses, ( or blatant cheating)😁

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    @mariner4life that's a good question.

    Hazelwood or Cummins or see who doesn't perform well after test 1.?

    Play all 4 and bat Cummins at 7? Nah probably not because they'll need rat ratface, the off spinner.

    Tough on who gets dropped but I shall continue my fan boi status for Pattinson, but not to the extent of the fans of world cup star and saviour of all rugby, Akira - that's just plain delusion 😉

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  • J Offline
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    @nzzp said in Ashes 2019:

    @Siam I agree. Feels like we're wasting electrons, eh ... just no idea how this goes. That's what makes it interesting too I guess 🙂

    Question for me now is who would make me happier if they won? I think I lean towards the English... but then I feel a bit ill

    After the World Cup, it's Australia all the way with this one.

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    @junior said in Ashes 2019:

    @nzzp said in Ashes 2019:

    @Siam I agree. Feels like we're wasting electrons, eh ... just no idea how this goes. That's what makes it interesting too I guess 🙂

    Question for me now is who would make me happier if they won? I think I lean towards the English... but then I feel a bit ill

    After the World Cup, it's Australia all the way with this one.

    yarr.... but cheating Australia, vs arrogant pommage? Maybe a 0-0 draw perhaps?

    Going to be an interesting series, that's for sure

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    Probably my favourite equal sporting event. I love the Ashes in England.

    Someone suggested it will be 3-2, that would make it one of the greatest series ever but I think we will lose at lease one match to rain

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    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

    Who would you drop for Pattinson?

    Have 4 pacemen + the GOAT. Win the toss and bowl, rip England out for 150 then hope we can do it from there.

    That backfires, drop the worst paceman and dig in.

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    @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

    Who would you drop for Pattinson?

    Have 4 pacemen + the GOAT. Win the toss and bowl, rip England out for 150 then hope we can do it from there.

    That backfires, drop the worst paceman and dig in.

    Cummins is a decent bat, but not sure he's good enough play 7 just yet mate. I guess he wouldn't be worse that some of the guys that have played there.

    5 bowlers and 2 keepers would be some out of the box thinking.

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    replied to NTA on last edited by Rapido
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    @NTA said in Ashes 2019:

    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

    Who would you drop for Pattinson?

    Have 4 pacemen + the GOAT. Win the toss and bowl, rip England out for 150 then hope we can do it from there.

    That backfires, drop the worst paceman and dig in.

    Overkill. Just need 3 seamers and a spinner to get through this English lineup.

    If I was Aus, I wouldn't even bugger about with the allrounder at 6 malarkey they've been doing with Labuschagne and M Marsh etc. Pick 6 batsmen. England will pass 400 only once in the potential 10 digs this series at most - no matter who you pick.

    I think I heard on recent TMS podcast during the Irish test that England have passed 400 only 1 in their last 20 odd test innings.

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  • MN5M Online
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    @Hooroo said in Ashes 2019:

    Probably my favourite equal sporting event. I love the Ashes in England.

    Someone suggested it will be 3-2, that would make it one of the greatest series ever but I think we will lose at lease one match to rain

    Gotta agree with you there. Even as a neutral it is such good viewing.

    Remember this ? always good to see a couple of my more favourite cricketers having a go at eachother......

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    @MN5 said in Ashes 2019:

    @Hooroo said in Ashes 2019:

    Probably my favourite equal sporting event. I love the Ashes in England.

    Someone suggested it will be 3-2, that would make it one of the greatest series ever but I think we will lose at lease one match to rain

    Gotta agree with you there. Even as a neutral it is such good viewing.

    Remember this ? always good to see a couple of my more favourite cricketers having a go at eachother......

    I love that clip. Heaps of hate and passion, no one got hurt and it made for a heightened contest.

    Hopefully that will be Broad and Warner!

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    @Hooroo said in Ashes 2019:

    @MN5 said in Ashes 2019:

    @Hooroo said in Ashes 2019:

    Probably my favourite equal sporting event. I love the Ashes in England.

    Someone suggested it will be 3-2, that would make it one of the greatest series ever but I think we will lose at lease one match to rain

    Gotta agree with you there. Even as a neutral it is such good viewing.

    Remember this ? always good to see a couple of my more favourite cricketers having a go at eachother......

    I love that clip. Heaps of hate and passion, no one got hurt and it made for a heightened contest.

    Hopefully that will be Broad and Warner!

    KP was a wicked batsman back in the day, so good to watch when in form and MJ was so fiery ( and also a great player ).

    Not sure anyone today would compare for me personally.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

    Cummins is a decent bat, but not sure he's good enough play 7 just yet mate

    Doesn't need to be that good if we're pinging the bastards out for under 200.

    Many ways to skin a cat.

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    wrote on last edited by ACT Crusader
    #22

    Looking forward to the Ashes. I have always gone for England. I’ll still be supporting them, but I dislike this OZ team less than previous ones.

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    There you go mate, Pattinson and Cummins are definites, leaving Hazlewood, Starc and Siddle to battle for the other spot. Tipped to be Hazlewood (absolutely the right call).

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  • barbarianB Offline
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    I'm tipping England 3-1.

    If the series is played in fine weather (hypothetically), then no game goes beyond day 4. Neither batting line-up is particularly impressive, and I suspect there will be a fair few games decided by one big individual score.

    I think we will revert back to our old selves, struggling for runs on green decks against the moving ball. There will be a lot of pressure on Smith to be back to his 'old self', but I don't think he's there yet. I can't see big contributions out of Khawaja and Travis Head, and thus we will be 5/120 more often than not.

    England's batting looks equally flimsy, but I give them the edge in home conditions. Ben Stokes is class and looks primed for a big series. Woakes and Broad are solid and can be brilliant in the right environment. Archer is also great, though his fitness is questionable.

    I think our bowling is good enough to have England in trouble, but our bats might not be good enough to take advantage.

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    @barbarian said in Ashes 2019:

    I'm tipping England 3-1.

    If the series is played in fine weather (hypothetically), then no game goes beyond day 4. Neither batting line-up is particularly impressive, and I suspect there will be a fair few games decided by one big individual score.

    I think we will revert back to our old selves, struggling for runs on green decks against the moving ball. There will be a lot of pressure on Smith to be back to his 'old self', but I don't think he's there yet. I can't see big contributions out of Khawaja and Travis Head, and thus we will be 5/120 more often than not.

    England's batting looks equally flimsy, but I give them the edge in home conditions. Ben Stokes is class and looks primed for a big series. Woakes and Broad are solid and can be brilliant in the right environment. Archer is also great, though his fitness is questionable.

    I think our bowling is good enough to have England in trouble, but our bats might not be good enough to take advantage.

    Do you think Davey will take any confidence in dealing with the conditions into the series from his decent CWC form (appreciating different format, ball etc.)?

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    @junior reckon Davey and Smith are going to go great guns. Expecting root and stokes to get amongst the runs also. Suspect oz have a better all round attack with not much between their top pace men. Unsure if England can return fire although their opening bowlers are fire.

    Ashes is just so good!! Test cricket is such a great game!

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    @junior said in Ashes 2019:

    Do you think Davey will take any confidence in dealing with the conditions into the series from his decent CWC form (appreciating different format, ball etc.)?

    I think he will, though I don't expect him to be as dominant as he was in the CWC. If we bat first tonight it will be fascinating to see how he plays it.

    A part of me thinks he will get out slogging in the fourth over, when he's on 22 (9), and the score is 0/23.

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    I'm going to predict 3-1 to Australia.

    England poor top order, and have a hunch Bairstow and Ali also losing some form so fewer lower order bail outs.

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    We won the toss and will bat.

    Therefore I'm not watching.

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    Technology eh? Warner gone.

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    Warner survives a caught behind that wasn't reviewed, then is out LBW which would have been not out if reviewed....

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    @Donsteppa to be fair, it's partly his own fault for batting so far down the pitch. The umpire will be judging him based on where a normal stance would be.

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    I was surprised that Lloyd and Botham were so confident with the Warner lbw. It looked to be missing leg stump to me with that angle.

    Bancroft caught by Root off Broad.

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    What fucking channel is the cricket on?

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    Gem? What is gem?

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    Also, numbers and names on test shirts? I'm not having that

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    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

    Also, numbers and names on test shirts? I'm not having that

    Just doesn't look right does it?

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    @canefan said in Ashes 2019:

    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

    Also, numbers and names on test shirts? I'm not having that

    Just doesn't look right does it?

    horrible

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    @Bovidae said in Ashes 2019:

    I was surprised that Lloyd and Botham were so confident with the Warner lbw

    One of the pluses of the CWC was not having to listen to Botham's inane ramblings. Great player. Crap commentator

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    @mariner4life said in Ashes 2019:

    Also, numbers and names on test shirts? I'm not having that

    I'm sure there's a joke there about convicts and prison numbers, but I can't be buggered to work on it.

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