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We good to discuss this again now? Since you & BSG & Kirwan seemed to keep tabs (and really care about) how often my calls come true?
For me, if he is impeached it'll be for covering up something staggeringly bad his team have done - eg for a tape of Flynn joking with Putin about how to get rid of Ryan by hacking his email. The team around Trump are the ones I'd be looking to go after if I were the CIA / NSA, FBIs because they will 100% do something. Tho' it'll just be Flynn or DeVos who get shitcanned.
Woah! Is that another political prediction you are making here?
I was referring to your prediction that - "because they will 100% do something. Tho' it'll just be Flynn or DeVos who get shitcanned." I don't have your depth of political insight to be 100% sure of anything in this area.Of you wanna wait till Flynn is actually arrested?
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@gollum said in US Politics:
We good to discuss this again now? Since you & BSG & Kirwan seemed to keep tabs (and really care about) how often my calls come true?
For me, if he is impeached it'll be for covering up something staggeringly bad his team have done - eg for a tape of Flynn joking with Putin about how to get rid of Ryan by hacking his email. The team around Trump are the ones I'd be looking to go after if I were the CIA / NSA, FBIs because they will 100% do something. Tho' it'll just be Flynn or DeVos who get shitcanned.
Woah! Is that another political prediction you are making here?
I was referring to your prediction that - "because they will 100% do something. Tho' it'll just be Flynn or DeVos who get shitcanned." I don't have your depth of political insight to be 100% sure of anything in this area.Of you wanna wait till Flynn is actually arrested?
Sorry which prediction of yours has come true? But at least it will be proof that a broken clock is right twice a day.
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@Crucial said in US Politics:
Interesting read regarding the Intelligence community (international and domestic) reaction to the new administration
Fark. That is some disturbing shit. Not only the with holding off information for fear of compromise by foreign powers, but starlets like this:
"Our spies have never liked Trump’s lackadaisical attitude toward the President’s Daily Brief, the most sensitive of all IC documents, which the new commander-in-chief has received haphazardly. The president has frequently blown off the PDB altogether, tasking Flynn with condensing it into a one-page summary with no more than nine bullet-points. Some in the IC are relieved by this, but there are pervasive concerns that the president simply isn’t paying attention to intelligence."
Remembering Trump is the guy who wasn't versed in the nuclear triad, and it makes for poor reading indeed
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@NTA said in US Politics:
@Crucial said in US Politics:
Interesting read regarding the Intelligence community (international and domestic) reaction to the new administration
Fark. That is some disturbing shit. Not only the with holding off information for fear of compromise by foreign powers, but starlets like this:
"Our spies have never liked Trump’s lackadaisical attitude toward the President’s Daily Brief, the most sensitive of all IC documents, which the new commander-in-chief has received haphazardly. The president has frequently blown off the PDB altogether, tasking Flynn with condensing it into a one-page summary with no more than nine bullet-points. Some in the IC are relieved by this, but there are pervasive concerns that the president simply isn’t paying attention to intelligence."
Remembering Trump is the guy who wasn't versed in the nuclear triad, and it makes for poor reading indeed
Disturbing? I found it an hilarious work of fiction. I am totally over these alleged 'sources' supposedly talking to the left wing media.
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Trump being photographed with Abe having a pow pow about the surprise North Korean missile test in front of the patrons at dinner at his club. This would be like GWB discussing 9/11 during the kiddies story time visit he was at when that situation happened. There are so many stories like this and about Flynn, where there's smoke there's fire. If everyone was lying to destabilise Trump why is he not taking them all to court?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
@NTA said in US Politics:
@Crucial said in US Politics:
Interesting read regarding the Intelligence community (international and domestic) reaction to the new administration
Fark. That is some disturbing shit. Not only the with holding off information for fear of compromise by foreign powers, but starlets like this:
"Our spies have never liked Trump’s lackadaisical attitude toward the President’s Daily Brief, the most sensitive of all IC documents, which the new commander-in-chief has received haphazardly. The president has frequently blown off the PDB altogether, tasking Flynn with condensing it into a one-page summary with no more than nine bullet-points. Some in the IC are relieved by this, but there are pervasive concerns that the president simply isn’t paying attention to intelligence."
Remembering Trump is the guy who wasn't versed in the nuclear triad, and it makes for poor reading indeed
Disturbing? I found it an hilarious work of fiction. I am totally over these alleged 'sources' supposedly talking to the left wing media.
The writer hasn't spoken to anyone. He's provided an opinion piece to somewhere likely to publish it. What he wrote sure as hell wouldn't get a look in at Breitbart.
No one in the Int game is going to talk directly to news sources. Their clearances would be stripped. Are they still normal people that gossip around dinner tables? Do they speak in general terms to trusted ex colleagues? yep.
Of course not every conclusion the writer reaches is correct but the theme is a concern. Other countries not sharing is quite likely true.
As for the briefing thing. That's no big deal. Why do you think John Key offloaded his briefings to someone else? He found them boring.
I'm pretty certain that various agencies in the US find happenings in Russia much more concerning than Trump (and especially Flynn) do.
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@Crucial said in US Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
@NTA said in US Politics:
@Crucial said in US Politics:
Interesting read regarding the Intelligence community (international and domestic) reaction to the new administration
Fark. That is some disturbing shit. Not only the with holding off information for fear of compromise by foreign powers, but starlets like this:
"Our spies have never liked Trump’s lackadaisical attitude toward the President’s Daily Brief, the most sensitive of all IC documents, which the new commander-in-chief has received haphazardly. The president has frequently blown off the PDB altogether, tasking Flynn with condensing it into a one-page summary with no more than nine bullet-points. Some in the IC are relieved by this, but there are pervasive concerns that the president simply isn’t paying attention to intelligence."
Remembering Trump is the guy who wasn't versed in the nuclear triad, and it makes for poor reading indeed
Disturbing? I found it an hilarious work of fiction. I am totally over these alleged 'sources' supposedly talking to the left wing media.
The writer hasn't spoken to anyone. He's provided an opinion piece to somewhere likely to publish it. What he wrote sure as hell wouldn't get a look in at Breitbart.
No one in the Int game is going to talk directly to news sources. Their clearances would be stripped. Are they still normal people that gossip around dinner tables? Do they speak in general terms to trusted ex colleagues? yep.
Of course not every conclusion the writer reaches is correct but the theme is a concern. Other countries not sharing is quite likely true.
As for the briefing thing. That's no big deal. Why do you think John Key offloaded his briefings to someone else? He found them boring.
I'm pretty certain that various agencies in the US find happenings in Russia much more concerning than Trump (and especially Flynn) do.
Most of these people may have personal political views but from a work perspective are apolitical.The theme is just conspiracy theory based on nothing but an opinion then. That is why I found it funny and not remotely disturbing.
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@canefan said in US Politics:
Trump being photographed with Abe having a pow pow about the surprise North Korean missile test in front of the patrons at dinner at his club. This would be like GWB discussing 9/11 during the kiddies story time visit he was at when that situation happened. There are so many stories like this and about Flynn, where there's smoke there's fire. If everyone was lying to destabilise Trump why is he not taking them all to court?
Why would he bother? Obama didnt.
So what exactly did Trump do wrong in this situation? Have dinner with the Japanese prime minister?
And this is not a 'where there is smoke there is fire' situation, it is a Trump derangement syndrome is creating lots of smoke scenario. -
Oh and as for Trumps phone being hackable.... that comp science guy is talking out of his ignorant ass. The 'expert' said because it was an Android device. Should he use Apple instead? Windows?
FFS.... Android is very hackable.. if you let it. It can also be incredibly locked down.. if you let it. Why the assumption that it is not secured? Maybe it is, maybe it isnt.. but people need to park the hysteria. -
What's interesting about the current political scene is trying to make sense of the actual trends from all the short term noise and behind the scenes 'commentary' around an Administration that's barely been in office for a month.
While I'm still - frankly appalled - about that first call between Trump and Turnbull, it's still just one call for now.
Even the relationship with China - last year there was a first call at Presidential (nominee) level with Taiwan since 1979. Now the one China policy has been reaffirmed in a call with China... How much we read into all the visceral beltway reactions and anonymous chatter still feels like broad guesswork. Let alone whether Trump and any of the rest of the political scene are easily predictable these days...
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Politics:
Oh and as for Trumps phone being hackable.... that comp science guy is talking out of his ignorant ass. The 'expert' said because it was an Android device. Should he use Apple instead? Windows?
FFS.... Android is very hackable.. if you let it. It can also be incredibly locked down.. if you let it. Why the assumption that it is not secured? Maybe it is, maybe it isnt.. but people need to park the hysteria.That's actually potentially true, as it's been determined by photos that he uses a Galaxy S3 which has known expoits. Old version of andriod, etc.
It was taken off him initially, then he got it back. Be interesting to find out if he received a hardened version back. You would think so.
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And, according to CNN, Flynn is gooooooooooooonnnneeee.....
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@gt12 said in US Politics:
And, according to CNN, Flynn is gooooooooooooonnnneeee.....
Not surprising. He was stinking things up big time, if he didn't resign he would have to be fired
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