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  • Wow!

    What's going on in Scotland? On June 10 the parliament had a "debate" on antiracism.
    The absolute puerile infantile opinions are mind blowing but this serves as a warning of what madness looks like running a country.
    It's long but well edited and the contributions from Scottish MPs are jaw dropping.

    Vale Scotland



  • Have there been any noises about taking down statues of Churchill?

    Proud defenders of Western civilization who were rude must be their targets.



  • @Frank said in British Politics:

    Have there been any noises about taking down statues of Churchill?

    Proud defenders of Western civilization who were rude must be their targets.

    Have you read any of this thread?

    Churchill is going nowhere, assure you of that. The violence and riots this would cause will be truly direction changing for the country. And proper direction changing, not the papering over cracks that the current BLM protests / responses are.



  • Useful video for countering pronoun-isis propaganda



  • Lefty twat Pie.

    Absolutely nails it again.



  • @MajorRage said in British Politics:

    @Frank said in British Politics:

    Have there been any noises about taking down statues of Churchill?

    Proud defenders of Western civilization who were rude must be their targets.

    Have you read any of this thread?

    Churchill is going nowhere, assure you of that. The violence and riots this would cause will be truly direction changing for the country. And proper direction changing, not the papering over cracks that the current BLM protests / responses are.

    Chatted in the last few days with a old friend who's a Sikh when BLM came up. He's very involved in community stuff particularly police liaison & the Armed Forces - his Dad was in the British Army.

    Very, very concerned where all the BLM/Race activism is heading and is seeing a lot of anti-Asian sentiment being openly discussed, with Asians being seen as racist and a big part of "the problem". Seen as too successful, not having the correct political views and weilding too much power in society. Police have been warning about attacks on statues/plaques of Ghandi, and providing safety advice to Temples, etc

    Thinks there's a real danger it's on it's way to becoming mainstream sentiment akin to ant-Israeli views being used as cover for anti-semitism.



  • @Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:

    @MajorRage said in British Politics:

    @Frank said in British Politics:

    Have there been any noises about taking down statues of Churchill?

    Proud defenders of Western civilization who were rude must be their targets.

    Have you read any of this thread?

    Churchill is going nowhere, assure you of that. The violence and riots this would cause will be truly direction changing for the country. And proper direction changing, not the papering over cracks that the current BLM protests / responses are.

    Chatted in the last few days with a old friend who's a Sikh when BLM came up. He's very involved in community stuff particularly police liaison & the Armed Forces - his Dad was in the British Army.

    Very, very concerned where all the BLM/Race activism is heading and is seeing a lot of anti-Asian sentiment being openly discussed, with Asians being seen as racist and a big part of "the problem". Seen as too successful, not having the correct political views and weilding too much power in society. Police have been warning about attacks on statues/plaques of Ghandi, and providing safety advice to Temples, etc

    Thinks there's a real danger it's on it's way to becoming mainstream sentiment akin to ant-Israeli views being used as cover for anti-semitism.

    Anti-Asian from BLM supporters?

    Or from Far Right groups?



  • @MiketheSnow said in British Politics:

    Anti-Asian from BLM supporters?
    Or from Far Right groups?

    From the Left.

    Anti-Hindu comments in particular from BLM activists & Labour Party members.



  • @Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:

    @MiketheSnow said in British Politics:

    Anti-Asian from BLM supporters?
    Or from Far Right groups?

    From the Left.

    Anti-Hindu comments in particular from BLM activists & Labour Party members.

    Are they that fucking thick or is it showing the movement to be the sham it is?



  • @MiketheSnow said in British Politics:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:

    @MiketheSnow said in British Politics:

    Anti-Asian from BLM supporters?
    Or from Far Right groups?

    From the Left.

    Anti-Hindu comments in particular from BLM activists & Labour Party members.

    Are they that fucking thick or is it showing the movement to be the sham it is?

    There's been a few articles in the mainstream press (Guardian, Independent) pushing the notion that Asians who emigrated to Africa from India held racist attitudes and were complicit in slavery and "race crimes" and when they emigrated from Africa to the UK they brought their racist attitudes with them.

    They are economically successful, hold traditional views, support right-wing economics and hold senior positions in a Tory government. Anathema to many BLM supporters, I'd say.



  • @Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:

    @MiketheSnow said in British Politics:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:

    @MiketheSnow said in British Politics:

    Anti-Asian from BLM supporters?
    Or from Far Right groups?

    From the Left.

    Anti-Hindu comments in particular from BLM activists & Labour Party members.

    Are they that fucking thick or is it showing the movement to be the sham it is?

    There's been a few articles in the mainstream press (Guardian, Independent) pushing the notion that Asians who emigrated to Africa from India held racist attitudes and were complicit in slavery and "race crimes" and when they emigrated from Africa to the UK they brought their racist attitudes with them.

    They are economically successful, hold traditional views, support right-wing economics and hold senior positions in a Tory government. Anathema to many BLM supporters, I'd say.

    They have also latched onto some of Gandi's less than favourable comments about black people too.



  • @junior said in British Politics:

    They have also latched onto some of Gandi's less than favourable comments about black people too.

    Calls to remove 'racist' Gandhi statue in Leicester

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53025407



  • Defund



  • "see the countryside as being a white environment "

    That made me laugh. It's mostly green.



  • @Snowy said in British Politics:

    "see the countryside as being a white environment "

    That made me laugh. It's mostly green.

    Not after snow.

    Or when frosty.



  • @booboo said in British Politics:

    @Snowy said in British Politics:

    "see the countryside as being a white environment "

    That made me laugh. It's mostly green.

    Not after snow.

    Or when frosty.

    It still mostly identifies with green. Deep down anyway.



  • Actually does that make the countryside left wing, and we are surrounded by communists?

    McCarthyism is back.



  • @Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:

    @junior said in British Politics:

    They have also latched onto some of Gandi's less than favourable comments about black people too.

    Calls to remove 'racist' Gandhi statue in Leicester

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53025407

    Well he was a racist misogynist. And he was Indian, not English so what's the problem?



  • @Rembrandt said in British Politics:

    Defund

    Eureka! Now I know why blonde haired, blue eyed Bonesetta is always trying to get me to go for a "nice walk" and I instantly recoil.



  • @Bones said in British Politics:

    @Rembrandt said in British Politics:

    Defund

    Eureka! Now I know why blonde haired, blue eyed Bonesetta is always trying to get me to go for a "nice walk" and I instantly recoil.

    Are you sure she's yours?



  • @pakman said in British Politics:

    @Bones said in British Politics:

    @Rembrandt said in British Politics:

    Defund

    Eureka! Now I know why blonde haired, blue eyed Bonesetta is always trying to get me to go for a "nice walk" and I instantly recoil.

    Are you sure she's yours?

    Around about 100% she's not! But I can understand you asking that question what with certain practices in the ME throughout the ages.



  • What did UK-based ferners make of the Chancellor's statement yday? Feels like we are in store for big tax hikes next year. Top rate to 60%? Over the pond, if Biden’s tax plan passes, a self-employed person in California or NYC will have a 66% top marginal rate.



  • @TeWaio said in British Politics:

    What did UK-based ferners make of the Chancellor's statement yday? Feels like we are in store for big tax hikes next year. Top rate to 60%? Over the pond, if Biden’s tax plan passes, a self-employed person in California or NYC will have a 66% top marginal rate.

    Goes against everything the Tories are about, so I just can't see it happening.

    I see a lot of changes to stealth taxes and also a huge reform of the NHS. The whole lot can be avoided if somebody would have the balls to make the NHS partially user pays.



  • Yeah I think we'll use that home improvements grant to deck out the house in new windows and then bugger off to Oz until you lot have paid for it.



  • @TeWaio said in British Politics:

    What did UK-based ferners make of the Chancellor's statement yday? Feels like we are in store for big tax hikes next year. Top rate to 60%? Over the pond, if Biden’s tax plan passes, a self-employed person in California or NYC will have a 66% top marginal rate.

    We already have an effective marginal rate of 60% at £100k as the personal allowance gets taken away. Having said that higher rates of personal tax have never been that effective at revenue raising. I agree with @MajorRage that we should expect a rise in stealth taxes. It would be great if Boris’ new deal generates increased tax revenues but that is likely to be a longer game.



  • @Catogrande said in British Politics:

    @TeWaio said in British Politics:

    What did UK-based ferners make of the Chancellor's statement yday? Feels like we are in store for big tax hikes next year. Top rate to 60%? Over the pond, if Biden’s tax plan passes, a self-employed person in California or NYC will have a 66% top marginal rate.

    We already have an effective marginal rate of 60% at £100k as the personal allowance gets taken away. Having said that higher rates of personal tax have never been that effective at revenue raising. I agree with @MajorRage that we should expect a rise in stealth taxes. It would be great if Boris’ new deal generates increased tax revenues but that is likely to be a longer game.

    Yeah the 120-125 zone is killer. If it wasn't for Brexit, you could be sure as shit that corporate tax would be going up.



  • @TeWaio said in British Politics:

    What did UK-based ferners make of the Chancellor's statement yday? Feels like we are in store for big tax hikes next year. Top rate to 60%? Over the pond, if Biden’s tax plan passes, a self-employed person in California or NYC will have a 66% top marginal rate.

    Top marginal rate in the UK is already 61% (45% Tax, 2% NI and 14% Employers NI). Higher if you include allowances being cut back once you reach 90K

    As a short-term measure, it's OK. But the level of tax increases needed in the future to pay for all the Covid & post GFC spending are going to be eye-watering.

    There's also a view that the current overall tax take - 45% - is very near the max an economy can sustain without stifling growth.

    Thank heavens our political class is so honest with the voters...


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