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Think Luxon isnt far off the mark
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300903899/yeah-nah-is-nz-a-negative-wet-whiny-inwardlooking-country
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@SouthernMann said in NZ Politics:
Greens new tax policy. That's a big no thanks from me. Just a typical money grab. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/wealth-tax-hikes-will-pay-for-income-tax-cuts-and-welfare-overhaul-greens/FCRYI5THFVECPNUS2IB2N7REWA/
I can’t believe Marama Davidson is posing for a photo with a white CIS male.
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@taniwharugby Dunno.
If we are I don't think the blame can be laid on Labour.
Only three years ago we were collectively screaming LOOK AT US LOOK AT US, WE'VE BEATEN THE RONA. WE ARE GODS.
Then came a reality check.
We've always had a bipolar cultural cringe / lack of context / fawning attention seeking / triumphalism.
Greatest little country on earth, Godzone - why can't we be like...
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
Think Luxon isnt far off the mark
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300903899/yeah-nah-is-nz-a-negative-wet-whiny-inwardlooking-country
Cue the outrage
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
Think Luxon isnt far off the mark
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300903899/yeah-nah-is-nz-a-negative-wet-whiny-inwardlooking-country
Cue the outrage
Funny poll, though. If you say NZ is negative and whiny, aren't you being a whiny little shite? Whining about the whining.
Kind of think certain sections of the English-speaking world are in a kind of self-flagellation mindset at the moment. -
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
Think Luxon isnt far off the mark
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300903899/yeah-nah-is-nz-a-negative-wet-whiny-inwardlooking-country
Cue the outrage
Funny poll, though. If you say NZ is negative and whiny, aren't you being a whiny little shite? Whining about the whining.
Kind of think certain sections of the English-speaking world are in a kind of self-flagellation mindset at the moment.Definitely lots of people getting triggered by stuff they shouldn't
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@SouthernMann said in NZ Politics:
Greens new tax policy. That's a big no thanks from me. Just a typical money grab.
You just described Greens tax policies around the world.
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They want my money
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@canefan It's the age of outrage
@taniwharugby yeah but like I pointed out we weren't whining 3 years ago. We wuz world beaters....
Laborites (including in the media) were trumpting that to justify draconian policies, a different aspect IMO. It was cringeworthy then and even worse now.
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@Tim Three criteria for stagflation
First two have been met
High inflation
Stalled growthThird hasn't
High unemploymentIn fact low unemployment has significantly contributed to the first two factors driving up costs and limiting capacity. Let's hope that growth in the job market eases inflationary pressures without sending unemployment up much.
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The labour market is a curious one at the moment. There are anecdotal examples of it heading in all directions. But even as a lagging indicator, employment is not (yet...?) responding as it historically has to slowing growth.
I've heard it partly attributed to changed employer behaviour, given aging labour force demographics and employer memories of how hard it was to get skilled workers back after the layoffs around 2008/2009. But I suppose that may only last for so long in the face of reducing demand.
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Stuff: Race Relations Commissioner Meng Foon resigns over $2m conflict of interest
... “I have been considering the matter and taking further advice. My preliminary view was his actions were serious enough to warrant removal.”
“Had the process been completed it is probable I would have determined his actions represented a serious breach of the Crown Entities Act and I would have taken the next steps to recommend to the Governor-General to remove him from his office.
“It is critical that all people appointed to public roles comply with their statutory duties. Meng Foon had multiple opportunities to adequately declare these interests and did not do so.
“While he has now chosen to resign I think it’s important the public is aware of the circumstances in which he has made that decision,” Deborah Russell said.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat sorry, I was was talking his main comment, as opposed to why we are there or who was to blame, certainly seems in the past decade or more NZ has tread that negative whiny needy validation path.
Luxon could be onto something. I can't comment too much having lived outside the place for decades with only occasional visits, but it seems to me maybe it's less of NZ going backwards, but falling behind other countries. My neighbour visited NZ a few months back after a 10 year gap and said something similar about mojo.
Little countries like Denmark with a well-educated population seem to be able to come up with home-grown innovative solutions to their problems which other countries really admire and copy. NZ used to be like that with things like ACC and some well-regarded criminal justice innovations
Nowadays it's easy to get the impression from afar that NZ just wants to be cool and progressive and not think too hard about actually sorting out stuff like putting a roof over it's citizens heads - despite plenty of land and building materials.
Just my impression from outside. Probably bollocks.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat sorry, I was was talking his main comment, as opposed to why we are there or who was to blame, certainly seems in the past decade or more NZ has tread that negative whiny needy validation path.
Luxon could be onto something. I can't comment too much having lived outside the place for decades with only occasional visits, but it seems to me maybe it's less of NZ going backwards, but falling behind other countries. My neighbour visited NZ a few months back after a 10 year gap and said something similar about mojo.
Little countries like Denmark with a well-educated population seem to be able to come up with home-grown innovative solutions to their problems which other countries really admire and copy. NZ used to be like that with things like ACC and some well-regarded criminal justice innovations
Nowadays it's easy to get the impression from afar that NZ just wants to be cool and progressive and not think too hard about actually sorting out stuff like putting a roof over it's citizens heads - despite plenty of land and building materials.
Just my impression from outside. Probably bollocks.
Let's do this. Style over substance
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The government and the greens want to introduce apartheid to our health system. Fails to address any underlying causes for discrepancies in wait time under the current system. Just make assessments based on race. Bin the lot of them while there's still time
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@Victor-Meldrew said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat sorry, I was was talking his main comment, as opposed to why we are there or who was to blame, certainly seems in the past decade or more NZ has tread that negative whiny needy validation path.
Nowadays it's easy to get the impression from afar that NZ just wants to be cool and progressive and not think too hard about actually sorting out stuff like putting a roof over it's citizens heads - despite plenty of land and building materials.
I would agree with that, NZ politics seems to have shifted from being good to simply "looking good".
Whilst I may not have agreed with prior governments and their policies they were done seemingly with the beliefs that they were being done with the intent of making NZ a better place - even if their policy was unpopular.
Now it seems to be more of a competition to "look good" especially in front of the media, and oh!! If the foreign media praise us - fawn fawn...
Maybe it's always been this way and it's more a measure of me getting older and more cynical in my ways rather than any stunning political analysis and insight but it's how I feel.
And we all know how important someone's feelings are these days - you don't even need facts anymore!!
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