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@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
Maximum sentence is life imprisonment for murder and the terrorist offences (having the bomb in his car probably counts as this) and 14 years for attempted murder. Normally life imprisonment would be with a minimum non-parole period, but there is also the option of life without parole - allowing this came in at the the same time as 3 strikes. Preventive Detention is used to protect the community when life imprisonment isn't available but someone needs to be locked up indefinitely e.g. kiddy fiddlers.
The nutter who killed the WINZ workers in Ashburton got life with a 27 year non-parole period. 50 murders, 50 attempted murders and some unknown number of terrorism and firearms offences seems like it would get much longer than that - if ever there was a case which got the maximum, this would be it. That said, it's probably moot as it seems very unlikely that he would ever actually get parole.
On a more personal note, preparations continue around my area for the upcoming funerals. Roads are closed, security plans are being made and everyone is on edge.
I don't envy you mate. It must a horrible time in the city at the moment
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@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@MN5 What the fuck does her story have anything to do with the mosque killings? Fuck her and fuck the editor that green-lighted the story
I know right ? I hope she looks back on this in years to come and realises how much of a fuckstick she comes across as.
....I won't hold my breath though.
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@Crazy-Horse I take it there is a good reason for not disclosing same on here? If so would you be able to PM me the details please? Understand if you think that's a no-no.
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@Catogrande said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Crazy-Horse I take it there is a good reason for not disclosing same on here? If so would you be able to PM me the details please? Understand if you think that's a no-no.
Obviously some legal reason why the NZ media can't disclose?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
This article makes a salient point. Do black Christian lives matter less?
Obviously to New Zelaanders at the moment .. yes! But the world media? Supposedly liberal and hating of racism?What a fucked article.
Nice to use a tragedy to push their political POV. I’m pretty sure if it was a Christian Church that had been attacked in NZ it would have made the mainstream news. It’s more newsworthy in first world countries because it happened in a first world country. Just like 7/7 or any other Islamic attack in a Western country has had massive coverage.
Yeah, the Western media doesn’t report on mass killings in Africa and the Middle East because they are third world basket cases with little relevance to their readers. And mass killings happen there all the time so aren’t news.
I mean fuck, even Fox has had it front page every day and they’re not even fake news right?
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The virtue signalling is getting on my tits.
Hit a new low this morning from somebody who, frankly speaking, I expected much better of. Based in Melbourne, went to some Mosque over the weekend to "support the community" and has taken a photo with her partner, both of them cuddling up pulling one of their "funny selfie" pictures.
Basically tourism.
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@Calf I don't agree with the overall slant of the article - Muslims themselves make up the majority of victims of Islamic terror - but it does raise an interesting point re: lack of coverage/outrage over these absolute atrocities in third world countries.
Might be I'm biased as my wife is from a 3rd world country, but the selective outrage, and also the skewed view we have of terrorism due to largely ignoring what happens around the world doesn't sit well with me. I do understand that western media will focus on western countries, but terrorism is not a western issue; it's a global issue that also impacts the west.
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@Duluth said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
If you think some info has been restricted in NZ please don’t post it on TSF
It’s probably fine, but we’re being cautious
They said on the news it was not allowed to be reported in NZ so I won't put it on here.
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@No-Quarter said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Calf I don't agree with the overall slant of the article - Muslims themselves make up the majority of victims of Islamic terror - but it does raise an interesting point re: lack of coverage/outrage over these absolute atrocities in third world countries.
Might be I'm biased as my wife is from a 3rd world country, but the selective outrage, and also the skewed view we have of terrorism due to largely ignoring what happens around the world doesn't sit well with me. I do understand that western media will focus on western countries, but terrorism is not a western issue; it's a global issue that also impacts the west.
I agree with all of that. Coverage is definitely imbalanced and third world issues are routinely ignored by western media.
Journalists using this event as evidence for their own pet conspiracy theories can fuck off though. And to add to this, CNN going out of their way to make this about Trump is equally fucking annoying.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback fuck that!
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What a crock of shit.
Someone should remind her this atrocity was carried out by an AUSTRALIAN who took advantage of our lax gun laws and the open borders policy NZ and Oz have
Pretty sure the response shown since Friday has been the opposite to everything she spouted in that tripe.
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@Virgil said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
What a crock of shit.
Someone should remind her this atrocity was carried out by an AUSTRALIAN who took advantage of our lax gun laws and the open borders policy NZ and Oz have
Pretty sure the response shown since Friday has been the opposite to everything she spouted in that tripe.
so if I didn't laugh at Billy T James taking the piss all those years ago this crisis could have been averted ?
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@MN5 said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Virgil said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
What a crock of shit.
Someone should remind her this atrocity was carried out by an AUSTRALIAN who took advantage of our lax gun laws and the open borders policy NZ and Oz have
Pretty sure the response shown since Friday has been the opposite to everything she spouted in that tripe.
so if I didn't laugh at Billy T James taking the piss all those years ago this crisis could have been averted ?
You've got a lot to answer for!
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@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@MN5 said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Virgil said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
What a crock of shit.
Someone should remind her this atrocity was carried out by an AUSTRALIAN who took advantage of our lax gun laws and the open borders policy NZ and Oz have
Pretty sure the response shown since Friday has been the opposite to everything she spouted in that tripe.
so if I didn't laugh at Billy T James taking the piss all those years ago this crisis could have been averted ?
You've got a lot to answer for!
I'm just waiting for some 'opinion' article spouting some shit how I should feel guilt ( as should all of us on here ) cos I'm a straight white guy with a job and house and how it's all my fault and I may as well have pulled the trigger myself.
I hope it's a doozy.
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