Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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<p>Movies are made for entertainment, action, humour, drama and a bit of escapism arent they?? </p>
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<p>Um. Are we still talking about <em><strong>kids movies</strong></em>? Set in space? Because if we are, then any discussion about the level of their gritty realism seems pretty bloody stupid.<br><br>
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<p>Yeah we are, but most adults who like them like to pretend they're <em><strong>not</strong></em> aimed at 9 year olds - and 9 year old intellect. But yes, I agree 100%, as kids movies they are great & any realism issues can be utterly ignored. Tragically most Star Wars fans lose their shit at the idea they are kids films, despite falling in love with them as kids. Its like explaining to a 40 year old reading Harry Potter its written for a child. </p> -
<p>If the story is good enough, it's amazing what readers/viewers will forgive when it comes to accuracy/realism.</p>
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Disagree. They (and I mean the original ones) weren't made for kids. They were made for the kid within adults. The classic good v bad, nobody that becomes a hero, that drew on classic stories we all associated with. <br />Yes, they connected better with teens and young adults that were happy to suspend disbelief for a rollicking story but not what I'd call aimed at kids. <br />I was 13 when SW came out and thought it was very cool. I am sure I was around the younger level of who was getting excited about it. <br />The coolest thing about SW for everyone back in the late 70s was the opening shot. We hadn't seen anything like that ever before and from that moment on I didn't care about plot flaws I just went for the ride.
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000279/?ref_=tt_trv_qu'><span>Doug</span></a>: [<span>wearing a T-shirt that says "Genius at Work"</span>] Hi. A question for Miss Bellamy. In episode 2F09 when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0534134/?ref_=tt_trv_qu'><span>June Bellamy</span></a>: Uh, well...</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0144657/?ref_=tt_trv_qu'><span>Homer</span></a>: I'll field this one.</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0144657/?ref_=tt_trv_qu'><span>Homer</span></a>: [<span>to Doug</span>] Let me ask you a question. Why would a man whose shirt says "Genius at Work" spend all of his time watching a children's cartoon show?</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000279/?ref_=tt_trv_qu'><span>Doug</span></a>: I withdraw my question.</p>
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MN5 mentioned no Lando. Does that also mean no Wedge? That's pretty farked up. I mean all they did was bring down the entire farking death star. <br><br>
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<p>MN5 mentioned no Lando. Does that also mean no Wedge? That's pretty farked up. I mean all they did was bring down the entire farking death star.<br><br>
Interesting bit of trivia: <strong>the dude who played Wedge is Ewen McGregors uncle.</strong></p>
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<p>Story goes Ewen asked him if he should do Star Wars and his uncle said no way.</p> -
I think the science of the movies is easier to believe than the fact that despite the levels of fanboidom displayed on this thread these same fanboys have not only managed to find a woman and in some cases procreate with them .<br><br>
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<p>Disagree. They (and I mean the original ones) weren't made for kids.<br><br>
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<p>Yeah... thats why Lucas kept the merchandising rights & became a billionaire on them. Because he sold millions of chewbacca toys to 30 year olds... just like all the mercandise sold for The Godfather, Chinatown, Jaws. :yes: </p>
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<p>I still have my Godfather horse head I got when I was 8.</p>
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<p>It was a kids movie, it played for weeks at my local cinema & every saturday it was full of 8-15 year olds watching it for the 4th, 5th time then going home & playing lightsabre with the vacuum handle. That was the huge issue with the prequels, they went after (and very much hit) the same audience, but the original fans had grown up. </p>
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And I'll be fucked if I start basing my entertainment around the opinions of recluse shut in obsessive nerds. Fuck those guys. And fuck the way they over think everything and then whinge</p>
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<p>You are living in the dark ages, nerds are mainstream now, almost everything you probably fangasm over is a nerd focused property, 20 years ago comics, cartoons, manga, wearing a superman shirt, coding a computer - nerds. Now Avengers, Big Bang Theory, Elon Musk, Akira, Comic Con rule the world.</p>
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<p>Next years movies are driven by shit like Comic Con, no major hollywood blockbuster skips it, movies are recut at huge expense if comic con pans it, stuff like Kick Ass got a huge marketying puish purely because comic con loved iot so much, prior to that it was half the budget. Have you ever been to CC? Its fricking nerd central. I walked round thinking "I'm the weird one here because I'm not dressed like Bobba Fett, 20 years ago all these kids would have been beaten up daily at school, now they are posting all this online & getting 1000's of likes"</p>
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<p>Almost every major movie now is accompianied by an AMA on reddit targeting exactly that audience, massive stars court them, Robert Downey Jr reinvented his career embracing nerds, Stark is based on Elon Musk, one of the greatest nerds of his generation. Jobs & Wozniak are regarded as legends, Gates is approaching sainthood. Zuckerberg had a massive movie made about him.</p>
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<p>You wont "start" basing your entertainment around the opinions of nerds. You already do, you just hadn't realised it. Every major blockbuster you love now has been written, vetted, poured over & rewitten by & because of those nerds you are disparaging.<br>
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Because those nerds who got beaten up as kids now make the decisions and have the money. It's why all the "old" shit like TMNT is back. <br /><br />And Gates isn't approaching sainthood for his nerdiness - his company was widely despised even though it made the world go round. You can't question the man's intentions when it comes to using his personal wealth and influence for charity though.
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<p>Because those nerds who got beaten up as kids now make the decisions and have the money. It's why all the "old" shit like TMNT is back.<br><br>
And Gates isn't approaching sainthood for his nerdiness - his company was widely despised even though it made the world go round. You can't question the man's intentions when it comes to using his personal wealth and influence for charity though.</p>
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<p>True, he's approaching sainthood for what he's doing with his money, not for MS. But no one would have seen that a few years back when he was the go-to laugh at nerd.</p>
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<p>Really if you look at the guys today that are having a massive influence on the world its guys like Gates (disease cure & prevention), Musk (the future of cars, space flight), Zuckerberg & Brin (privacy, communication, cars again), Salman Khan (education), nerds galore. </p> -
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If the story is good enough, it's amazing what readers/viewers will forgive when it comes to accuracy/realism.<br><br>
My guilty pleasure was The Tudors series. Historical accuracy wise it was laughable, but all the sex, bloodshed and betrayal made it compelling viewing.</p></blockquote>
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<p>The Tudors rocked. What do you mean it wasn't historically accurate?</p>
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<p>Henry the 8th was a fat fluffybunny, the guy that played him wasnt, also, Superman wasnt about in the period either! </p>
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<p>I think the science of the movies is easier to believe than the fact that despite the levels of fanboidom displayed on this thread these same fanboys have not only managed to find a woman and in some cases procreate with them .<br><br>
Sky has just announced that they are putting on a dedicated <strong>sci fi channel</strong> as part of their basic package at no extra cost .</p>
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<p>Good they arent gonna charge more for it, cos I reckon there will be ALOT of shite on it (basing it on what I saw on the UK Sci Fi)....reckon they need to do more +1 channels, surely the cost cant be much?</p> -
<p>If anyone wants to combine Star Wars geekery with artistic, skills, Uniqlo (Japanese clothing company) is having a Star Wars t-shirt design competition <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.uniqlo.com/utgp/2015/en'>here</a>.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.uniqlo.com/jp/store/feature/uq/ut/americanmovie/'>Here are their current Star Wars t-shirts</a> to get an idea about the sort of thing they want</p> -
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<p>MN5 mentioned no Lando. Does that also mean no Wedge? That's pretty farked up. I mean all they did was bring down the entire farking death star.<br><br>
Interesting bit of trivia: the dude who played Wedge is Ewen McGregors uncle.</p>
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<p>Well yeah talk about unsung heroes, both of them. Their work in the final battle was extraordinary, not to mention Wedges work aiding Luke in another couple of major battles.</p>
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<p>Wedge et al unsung?</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wedge_Antilles'>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wedge_Antilles</a></p>
