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    As others have said, a few players - Read, Franks and possibly Ben Smith - look past it. We still have no answer to the rush defence. BB’s boot lets us down in key matches. Our attack coach (and heir apparent to Hansen) appears clueless. We still lack a decent blindside. But the most depressing thing is the possible loss of Retallick for the WC.

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    @African-Monkey said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @KiwiMurph I thought Bridge was poor on defence in that last try. He needed to use his voice and call numbers over but didn't. Rieko was poor but he's still ahead of Bridge.

    They're not competing for a spot. Rieko is a lock-in.

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    Definitely a 1991 feeling to this team. Older, slower and no obvious ways to fix the weaknesses.

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    @Tim crusaders players were on the piss for awhile after the final as well

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    @hydro11 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @akan004 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    The decision to go for the 3 and not the lineout was wrong in hindsight.

    Piss off. We would have lost.

    How did you work that out?

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    @kev said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    To win the World Cup you need a squad. No problem with selections. But have to have your best goal kicker kicking. Dumb.

    Got to pick the best ten first. Was notable how much BB played at ten in the second half and how much better the backline looked when he did.

    Richie is a big step down at 10.

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    Last four results between these two sides:

    NZ by 1
    Saffa’s by 2
    NZ by 2
    Draw

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    Barrett was the best player on the park, and kept us in the game. He's essential.

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    Hopefully we won't see any loose forwards covering locks in key games from now on. Surely they've learnt their lesson.

    Right,

    Right?

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    @Kirwan Mounga needs time because we need another 1st. Was good in second half. Many times BB has been criticised as well. Just par for course.

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    @gt12 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    **I have no idea what the AB selectors will do anymore, but that’s a good game for SA.
    **
    They’ll rightly not be afraid of us at the WC.

    How many players are past it or just not good enough?

    I'm pretty certain we'll play way more direct off the ruck if we meet them in the RWC. I feel like we're "keeping our powder dry" as we kept going wide with depth when if we'd played direct in close we'd make inroads.

    Was SBW as bad as everyone made out? I watched first half on my phone coming back from the State House Rugby on the train but he didn't look as bad as the comments (obviously not saying he was good 😉 ) but will do i full screen rewatch tomorrow..

    So the way to make Barrett a good 10 (as opposed to a rugby player which he already is) is to select him at fullback and having him play up in the line it seems? Still need someone to kick the goals though.

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    Maybe I’m too positive but I didn’t mind that from us. I think our attack looked better than it’s has (or st least more promising) for a long time against rush D. Games will be tight a WC and I hope we can keep improving. SA scramble d was out-of-this-worldly! We had about 5 times when we had them shot in phase plsy and were let down by our hands which needs to improve.
    Thought Frizell had a good 2nd half which was pleasing and Coles looked good.
    Defences are just so well organised and professional now. When you think league has 13 and we have 15 on same size field I wonder if we need to look how the games is played to create more chances. I can’t see all 6 nations (bar Italy) SA and NZ games being any different to this one in terms of attacking spectacle.

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    @Stargazer I think so too. I was answering a question about it.

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    @Nepia said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @gt12 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    **I have no idea what the AB selectors will do anymore, but that’s a good game for SA.
    **
    They’ll rightly not be afraid of us at the WC.

    How many players are past it or just not good enough?

    I'm pretty certain we'll play way more direct off the ruck if we meet them in the RWC. I feel like we're "keeping our powder dry" as we kept going wide with depth when if we'd played direct in close we'd make inroads.

    Was SBW as bad as everyone made out? I watched first half on my phone coming back from the State House Rugby on the train but he didn't look as bad as the comments (obviously not saying he was good 😉 ) but will do i full screen rewatch tomorrow..

    So the way to make Barrett a good 10 (as opposed to a rugby player which he already is) is to select him at fullback and having him play up in the line it seems? Still need someone to kick the goals though.

    SBW was shite .

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    @Nepia said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @gt12 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    **I have no idea what the AB selectors will do anymore, but that’s a good game for SA.
    **
    They’ll rightly not be afraid of us at the WC.

    How many players are past it or just not good enough?

    I'm pretty certain we'll play way more direct off the ruck if we meet them in the RWC. I feel like we're "keeping our powder dry" as we kept going wide with depth when if we'd played direct in close we'd make inroads.

    Was SBW as bad as everyone made out? I watched first half on my phone coming back from the State House Rugby on the train but he didn't look as bad as the comments (obviously not saying he was good 😉 ) but will do i full screen rewatch tomorrow..

    So the way to make Barrett a good 10 (as opposed to a rugby player which he already is) is to select him at fullback and having him play up in the line it seems? Still need someone to kick the goals though.

    Even if this were the case methinks he needs more than that to convince.

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    @Chris They all played like it too.

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    @kev yeah great points spot on

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    We wouldn't have scored our try without a good pass from SBW. It wasn't perfect, but good enough to put him in the hole. ALB looked better when he came on but we were dominating the game at that point (and should have put it away).

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to African Monkey on last edited by
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    @African-Monkey that’s my point

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    @KiwiMurph said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    Rieko's position is under serious threat from Bridge.

    Rieko offers zero kicking game so his value in this sort of a game is fuck all.

    Yeah nah not after that absolute howler by Bridge at the end - basically cost us the game. Just such a bad defensive play, like absolutely mind-blowingly horrible

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