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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="584751" data-time="1464849090"><p>
I hope you're wrong, cause I've just recently taken a fairly sizeable (for me!) position in their stock.</p></blockquote>
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I don't think you have anything to worry about. Apple could launch the iPoo and people would still buy millions of them. <br><br>
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<p>I've owned their stock several times before, Rancid, and made a bit. But funnily enough it's not their iAnythings that motivated me this time.</p>
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<p>Their last results call failed to make any mention of the line item that showed they spent $9.7bn on R&D in the year to April. I'm betting that the research wasn't simply on developing the new Apple Pencil, or any computer product for that matter. They also spent $11.2bn on tooling and equipment in the same period, again not to produce the pencil. What is it for? People can guess but nobody knows for sure.</p>
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<p>It looks to me that they may be on the way towards an iPod type pivot into a different tech path, and if that's the case they are well underpriced.</p> -
<p>Wife's laptop updated to Windows 10 the other night, lost detection of HMDI out for audio - no end of faffing about sorted it (drivers, restarted, etc, etc,). Rolled back to Windows 8.1 and hey presto it's all working fine again.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="584751" data-time="1464849090">
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<p>I hope you're wrong, cause I've just recently taken a fairly sizeable (for me!) position in their stock.</p>
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<p>I have gone the other way, so hope I am correct. I abandoned my Apple stock and have bought Microsoft.</p>
<p>Hololens and associated patents are going to kick ass</p>
<p>I am betting (along with many others) that Apple are developing a vehicle. If that is the case, it will be a huge risk and a long term proposition.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/28/apple-rd-spending-hit-81b-in-2015-suggests-continued-work-on-massive-project'>http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/28/apple-rd-spending-hit-81b-in-2015-suggests-continued-work-on-massive-project</a></p> -
<p>this is the first and only issue after the upgrade, I was so glad to be rid of the abomination that is Win8/8.1...</p>
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<p>8.1 was fine imo - didn't like native 8 with the tablet/pc interface mash up. But we've got 8.1 at work so that helped with getting familiar with it.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="584795" data-time="1464858839">
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<p>Is that a joke?</p>
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<p>They are practically forcing it on you.</p>
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<p>Prove it then by supplying a link ;)</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.microsoft.com/en-NZ/windows/windows-10-upgrade'>https://www.microsoft.com/en-NZ/windows/windows-10-upgrade</a></p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="584773" data-time="1464854846">
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<p>I have gone the other way, so hope I am correct. I abandoned my Apple stock and have bought Microsoft.</p>
<p>Hololens and associated patents are going to kick ass</p>
<p>I am betting (along with many others) that Apple are developing a vehicle. If that is the case, it will be a huge risk and a long term proposition.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/28/apple-rd-spending-hit-81b-in-2015-suggests-continued-work-on-massive-project'>http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/28/apple-rd-spending-hit-81b-in-2015-suggests-continued-work-on-massive-project</a></p>
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<p>I think its more likely they'll simply buy the underlying basics with their $200b of cash. A step in for Volkswagon for example wouldn't bother them. Nor on a different tack Netflix, although NF is massively over-valued, unlike VW. I'm betting their R&D spend is not on a vehicle, its on an operating unit you drop into a vehicle. So then they just need the vehicle, come on down VW...</p> -
<p>I have been reading quite a bit on the ethics of driver less cars. Quite fascinating stuff, and not easily solved. And there no consensus on it at all. So I think whilst it is almost inevitable and sooner than many think, the implementation will be..... tumultuous.</p>
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<p>And whilst Gollums theory makes practical sense... I just dont see Apple letting others design cars and they just provide the 'OS' .. they would love to invent a curved bumper.</p> -
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<p>I have been reading quite a bit on the ethics of driver less cars. Quite fascinating stuff, and not easily solved. And there no consensus on it at all. So I think whilst it is almost inevitable and sooner than many think, the implementation will be..... tumultuous.</p>
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<p>And whilst Gollums theory makes practical sense... I just dont see Apple letting others design cars and they just provide the 'OS' ..<strong> they would love to invent a curved bumper.</strong></p>
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<p>That was good laugh to start the day! You're spot on though - they'd probably be as excited about designing the chassis as the tech elements.</p> -
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<p>I have been reading quite a bit on the ethics of driver less cars. Quite fascinating stuff, and not easily solved. And there no consensus on it at all. So I think whilst it is almost inevitable and sooner than many think, the implementation will be..... tumultuous.</p>
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<p>And whilst Gollums theory makes practical sense... I just dont see Apple letting others design cars and they just provide the 'OS' .. they would love to invent a curved bumper.</p>
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<p>And whilst Gollums theory makes practical sense... I just dont see Apple letting others design cars and they just provide the 'OS' .. they would love to invent a curved bumper.</p>
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<p>Next model of iPhone is all-glass. So I'm expecting their car division to follow suit :whistle:</p> -
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<p>I disagree, my Surface kicks the ass of the iPad piece of shit my wife tried to use.</p>
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<p>I have had zero issues with my Windows 10 desktop, in fact it has been nothing short of outstanding.</p>
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<p>Apple is on the decline.</p>
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<p>Out of interest what model of Surface do you have? A lot of the lower end models only have 4GB of RAM that cannot be upgraded, which makes me worry about performance.</p> -
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<p>Next model of iPhone is all-glass. </p>
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<p>I woke up after a night out to find my S6 Edge all cracked. Glass isn't a particularly endearing design feature after that happens.</p> -
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<p>I woke up after a night out to find my S6 Edge all cracked. Glass isn't a particularly endearing design feature after that happens.</p>
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<p>I don't like TouchWiz to start with, so not into Samsung gear. But i really, <em>really</em> never saw the point of the Edge line.</p> -
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<p>I have been reading quite a bit on the ethics of driver less cars. Quite fascinating stuff, and not easily solved. And there no consensus on it at all. So I think whilst it is almost inevitable and sooner than many think, the implementation will be..... tumultuous.</p>
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<p>And whilst Gollums theory makes practical sense... I just dont see Apple letting others design cars and they just provide the 'OS' .. they would love to invent a curved bumper.</p>
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<p>The bumper & the go faster stripes can be all Apple. But the drive shaft, suspension, gear box sure as feck won't be. Same way you buy a SEAT you are geting 80% of a Volkswagon. Or a Porche for that matter.</p>
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<p>The bit that I think will be a massive issue with self drive is pedestrians walking in front of them. If the car stops thats good... but if pedestrians know the car will stop why would you not just cross the road whenever you wanted? Even now I can't drive through London without some jeans round his arse jobless Dappy-alike slouching across the street knowing I'll break for him. So central cities will be one huge gridlock as douche bags stroll out whenever they want. Might mean that cops move from getting cash from traffic stops to getting cash from jay-walking. Will also mean that countries that already never jay walk will have a first mover advantage - eg Switzerland, some of the Nordics.</p> -
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<p>Even now I can't drive through London without some jeans round his arse jobless Dappy-alike slouching across the street knowing I'll <strong>break</strong> for him.</p>
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<p>Freudian Slip?</p>