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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
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@canefan Can't see things opening up internationally in the immediate future, so I think an NZ Mini-Series is the answer.
Only possible until a player tests positive. Then hwo do you continue it?
This looks like it's going to have some real legs I fear
If all sports are going to be canned - we'll have to start National Service weekends, where everyone gets out and picks up rubbish, etc.
Otherwise what is the populace going to do at weekends? Hang around in shopping malls?
Yeah, and talk bollocks on the internet. It'd be a disaster!
If this gets into the community at large, then gatherings (like even kids sports) could be canned. I am not sure we're appreciating quite how big this could be, and how much it will effect things.
If it gets out into the community at large then we will probably be like China and Italy and everything will close.
But, since we're not there yet, we can hope that the current measures might stop us getting there.
Our isolation and low population helps. But there's nothing wrong with trying to stay ahead of the play
If it works, it's a master stroke and a small price to pay IMO. Difficult decision to take as an administration too. Because enforcing social distancing by restricting migration is a hammer type approach.
It will be interesting to see the difference, if any, compared to Australia. We have confirmed cases in every state and territory. We actively sought to bring in Chinese students for the start of university semester. We simply don't know how many people have been infected prior to implementing stricter controls.
I had a conference call this morning to discuss work arrangements and what can be achieved given the restrictions imposed by the organisation. That aspect alone will be "exciting" given the narrow windows of opportunity we have.
People can come in, they just have to sit out for 14 days, unlike the USA which is a total ban? Mrs CF works at Auckland Uni and students have not been allowed to return to NZ to start the semester.
I was watching Mina Kimes on High Noon ESPN talk show. She used to be a corporate journalist and said that in her experience, in crisis situations big organizations never regret taking aggressive action in hindsight, better safe than sorry and if things turn out less than you think you look great. If you drop the ball you may suffer major damage to reputation etc
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@Mokey said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Virgil Yup. And the trouble with self isolation, is that you just KNOW there will be twats who don't do it. (I don't understand the toilet paper thing at all. It's a respiratory virus you dumbarses, you won't be shitting like a racehorse.)
The mrs had a run in with one fuckwit on a fb page who’s definition of isolation is that it’s fine to still go to public places like supermarkets etc as long as you don’t touch anyone...
It’s scary to think the world is full of fuck shits like that guy and the c&nt that flew in from Oz knowing he may have it ( he recently flew home to Oz from France) -
@Virgil said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Mokey said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Virgil Yup. And the trouble with self isolation, is that you just KNOW there will be twats who don't do it. (I don't understand the toilet paper thing at all. It's a respiratory virus you dumbarses, you won't be shitting like a racehorse.)
The mrs had a run in with one fuckwit on a fb page who’s definition of isolation is that it’s fine to still go to public places like supermarkets etc as long as you don’t touch anyone...
It’s scary to think the world is full of fuck shits like that guy and the c&nt that flew in from Oz knowing he may have it ( he recently flew home to Oz from France)If we are lucky, Darwin will take care of them. More likely someone else will pay for their missteps. If you live in NZ I think you can report such people to the Police now? I might be mistaken but I thought I breezed past that tidbit earlier today
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Mokey said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Virgil Yup. And the trouble with self isolation, is that you just KNOW there will be twats who don't do it. (I don't understand the toilet paper thing at all. It's a respiratory virus you dumbarses, you won't be shitting like a racehorse.)
The mrs had a run in with one fuckwit on a fb page who’s definition of isolation is that it’s fine to still go to public places like supermarkets etc as long as you don’t touch anyone...
It’s scary to think the world is full of fuck shits like that guy and the c&nt that flew in from Oz knowing he may have it ( he recently flew home to Oz from France)If we are lucky, Darwin will take care of them. More likely someone else will pay for their missteps. If you live in NZ I think you can report such people to the Police now? I might be mistaken but I thought I breezed past that tidbit earlier today
Please no, don't turn it into something to report to police. If this thing goes further into the shit, police (and other emergency services) will be busy enough without having to investigate that shit as well. And they will be more than likely operating on reduced staff.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Virgil said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Mokey said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Virgil Yup. And the trouble with self isolation, is that you just KNOW there will be twats who don't do it. (I don't understand the toilet paper thing at all. It's a respiratory virus you dumbarses, you won't be shitting like a racehorse.)
The mrs had a run in with one fuckwit on a fb page who’s definition of isolation is that it’s fine to still go to public places like supermarkets etc as long as you don’t touch anyone...
It’s scary to think the world is full of fuck shits like that guy and the c&nt that flew in from Oz knowing he may have it ( he recently flew home to Oz from France)If we are lucky, Darwin will take care of them. More likely someone else will pay for their missteps. If you live in NZ I think you can report such people to the Police now? I might be mistaken but I thought I breezed past that tidbit earlier today
Please no, don't turn it into something to report to police. If this thing goes further into the shit, police (and other emergency services) will be busy enough without having to investigate that shit as well. And they will be more than likely operating on reduced staff.
I could be wrong (like that's never happened) but I thought I read that Cindy advised people to contact the police so they could enforce the quarantine
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@canefan it wouldn't surprise me, but I can't see police having the resources to investigate this properly as well as keeping up with core duties. Police are stretched enough in normal times keeping up with demand.
There is already talk over here of moving non operational police into operational roles to cover impending staff shortages. Sounds good in theory, but from an operational point of view, many non operatonal police won't remember how to do the operational job and will end up being a bit of a pain in the arse.
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A dedicated number would be better than 111....with a team to determine action, be easier to resource.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
A dedicated number would be better than 111....
There already is a non-emergency number, 105
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Went to the supermarket today for our usual shop. It was chaotic, people everywhere. I have never seen a supermarket so busy.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Went to the supermarket today for our usual shop. It was chaotic, people everywhere. I have never seen a supermarket so busy.
Where was that?
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The A-League's hand has been forced and suspension is now inevitable after the Australian government followed New Zealand's lead by enforcing strict border control protocols.
Wellington Phoenix's game against Melbourne Victory at Sky Stadium go ahead as planned at 6:20pm but Victory will be forced to quarantine for 14 days upon their arrival back into Australia.
Victory are scheduled to fly back to Melbourne on Monday, meaning they will miss Sunday midnight deadline.
The strict travel measures, put in place to combat the global Covid-19 pandemic, make it impossible for the Phoenix's following games against Sydney FC and Newcastle Jets on Wednesday and Sunday next week to go ahead.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
People can come in, they just have to sit out for 14 days, unlike the USA which is a total ban? Mrs CF works at Auckland Uni and students have not been allowed to return to NZ to start the semester.
We had unis paying Chinese students if they could get here.
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I went into the madness yesterday and this morning.
Yesterday was surreal. The local mall was dead. All the shops were open but no one really shopping. The supermarket on the other hand. What a shit show. We managed to get our usual shop in with a few extra provisions. One of the things that amazes me is what some people think they will need.
white and jasmine rice has sold out. But tons of basmati and brown rice still left. Rice is rice ffs.
Instant pancakes sold out. But flour still in abundance. Lots of instant products missing. But the stuff that will yield more meals still sitting there.
The worst thing I saw was and Asian man coughing without covering his mouth in the grocers. I don’t care that he was Asian. That’s not why I mentioned his ethnicity. I said it because the bogan chick that told him to “fuck off back off to China” thought it was important. He was a fucken ignorant disgusting c@nt but who coughed hard 3 times without covering his mouth. Fruit and vege all around him. But his being Asian made him more of a target for what will no doubt become known as Coracism.
Today was slightly less strained than yesterday. People were in cafes doing Sunday as they always do. So I’m hopeful we aren’t descending into a mad max scenario. Where TP is the new guzzolene.
In any case I’m optimistic that the worst we will see is a 1-2 week shut down. It’ll send some small businesses broke and that’s a bloody shame. It could be worse. Who really knows.
I have been thinking about the virus itself all wrong though. I haven’t really been worried about getting sick or my wife n kids getting sick. We are all very healthy and active people. Yesterday a conversation with my dad made me rethink this. He’s really shiting himself. He’ll probably be fine if infected. 62 but looks 50. Strong as an Ox and still very active. He’s terrified by this thing though. I hadn’t really given much concern to the elderly mortality. My concern is always my kids and wife. But speaking with dad and hearing my wife speak to her 80yo widower mum. Sitting alone in a house in Upper Hutt with no support system as we all live abroad. I’m a bit ashamed I’ve not taken this more seriously. I’ve been nonchalantly saying over water cooler talk “oh it’s only the elderly and people who are already sick”. Like their lives mean less than mine.
I’ve been bemused by the potential for a lockdown and such. But I’m a little disgusted with myself for being so flippant about a situation that has such a high mortality rate. That Italian obits tweet is just shocking. All elderly people in those photos. All that knowledge, teachings, experience is gone for many families.
If a lockdown means that I get a few more years of horrible shortbread for Xmas from my mother in law, hopefully another 20 odd years of beers with the old man and another 20 plus years of kiwi care packages from my mum. Then so be it. Lock my ass up.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
People can come in, they just have to sit out for 14 days, unlike the USA which is a total ban? Mrs CF works at Auckland Uni and students have not been allowed to return to NZ to start the semester.
We had unis paying Chinese students if they could get here.
That isn't smart
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@Siam said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Australia doing the 14 day self isolate thing. I don't know how long for, ie. NZ reassess in 16 days.
Good idea, but I don't see how it works in practise. My wife self-isolates which means staying at home, potentially giving me the virus and I go shopping for supplies...
The other aspect is 18 days later my parents come visiting for a week.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
People can come in, they just have to sit out for 14 days, unlike the USA which is a total ban? Mrs CF works at Auckland Uni and students have not been allowed to return to NZ to start the semester.
We had unis paying Chinese students if they could get here.
That isn't smart
One of Australia's most prestigious universities is offering cash grants of $7,500 to help Chinese students get around the coronavirus travel ban and resume their studies.