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    @snowy I suspect the PR thought it was the usual 5 AYEM!

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    Not as many changes as I thought.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/97333905/david-havili-to-make-debut-but-all-blacks-mostly-opt-for-experience-against-argentina

    Damian McKenzie, Waisake Naholo, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (c), Matt Todd, Vaea Fifita, Scott Barrett, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Kane Hames.

    Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Ngani Laumape, David Havil

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    We'll find out after the game what the bigger picture is as 6 players from this squad will go back home.

    I thought Kaino would get a start but they wouldn't be resting Squire not to play him in Cape Town.

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    Stoked for Matt Todd

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    @bovidae said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    Not as many changes as I thought.
    Puts Rattpoo in his place too

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    @duluth said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/97333905/david-havili-to-make-debut-but-all-blacks-mostly-opt-for-experience-against-argentina

    Damian McKenzie, Waisake Naholo, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (c), Matt Todd, Vaea Fifita, Scott Barrett, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Kane Hames.

    Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Ngani Laumape, David Havil

    How will McKenzie go at 10? Will Naholo ever play really well in Black, or forever destined to only be then man at Super Level? What incriminating info does SBW have on Steve? Can Fifita back up? How will PT, NL and DH go off the bench?

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    @billy-tell said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    @duluth said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/97333905/david-havili-to-make-debut-but-all-blacks-mostly-opt-for-experience-against-argentina

    Damian McKenzie, Waisake Naholo, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (c), Matt Todd, Vaea Fifita, Scott Barrett, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Kane Hames.

    Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Ngani Laumape, David Havil

    How will McKenzie go at 10? Will Naholo ever play really well in Black, or forever destined to only be then man at Super Level? What incriminating info does SBW have on Steve? Can Fifita back up? How will PT, NL and DH go off the bench?

    Which answer would you lie first and how many words are required?

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    I'm hoping DMac gets subbed for Havili. The idea he'd be handed five-eighth duties for the All Blacks when he plays fullback at Super Rugby level is frightening.

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    @bovidae said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    I thought Kaino would get a start but they wouldn't be resting Squire not to play him in Cape Town.

    The big surprise for me in the team is that Kaino isn't starting - let alone not featuring at all. I thought they'd go with their strongest team, which they pretty much have apart from JK and possibly Naholo/Havili over NMS. Which might not bode that well for JK's place in the pecking order.

    Not sure Squire is being completely rested. He took a head knock vs the Jaapies and might be at home because of that.

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    Great to see Fifita and Todd in the starting lineup.

    Kaino I thought would’ve been on the bench, possibly covering 6/lock. Surprised PT is in the 23, but good on him for getting back in.

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    Kaino a surprise, but didn't he get a knock in Auckland game? Thought Taylor might get a rest. Likewise I thought TKB would get a run, as Thomas has played a lot of minutes this year.

    ACT will relish the prospect of almost a Chch front five at some point in third quarter. Will be interesting to see how Barrett (S) and Spot (P) go at this level!

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    Kaino has a fight on his hands to get his spot back. I think that the selectors are being very consistent here. If you are out from injury you are considered the incumbent and given a chance (or two) to reclaim. If you are missing from your own actions and others step up you have to fight your way back in.
    I'm sure they weren't expecting to make the changeover this season but it was forced on them and Squire has grabbed the opportunity.
    Bonus is that JK will still go on the EOYT and be quite fresh so that helps with experienced depth.

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    For those interested, this was in a herald article earlier in the week

    All Blacks - Biggest workloads in 2017

    1. Damian McKenzie 1666 minutes
    2. Ngani Laumape 1423
    3. Brodie Retallick 1387
    4. Sam Whitelock 1371
    5. Beauden Barrett 1354
    6. TJ Perenara 1348
    7. David Havili 1338
    8. Ardie Savea 1275
    9. Anton Lienert-Brown 1265
    10. Rieko Ioane 1255
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    DMac has played every minute for the Chiefs in the last 2 seasons. He might be a midget but he's tough and durable.

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    @bovidae said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    @crucial

    DMac has played every minute for the Chiefs in the last 2 seasons. He might be a midget but he's tough and durable.

    That's very impressive - wonder if any other players have done that - 2 seasons plus finals

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    @bovidae said in Pumas v All Blacks:

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    DMac has played every minute for the Chiefs in the last 2 seasons. He might be a midget but he's tough and durable.

    His employers certainly get their monies worth in quantity.

    It makes you wonder if we see more highlights because he plays more minutes/ more errors because he plays more minutes/ both

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    @crucial said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    For those interested, this was in a herald article earlier in the week

    All Blacks - Biggest workloads in 2017

    1. Damian McKenzie 1666 minutes
    2. Ngani Laumape 1423
    3. Brodie Retallick 1387
    4. Sam Whitelock 1371
    5. Beauden Barrett 1354
    6. TJ Perenara 1348
    7. David Havili 1338
    8. Ardie Savea 1275
    9. Anton Lienert-Brown 1265
    10. Rieko Ioane 1255

    Barrett would probably be no. 2 without the 12 yellow and red cards he's received this season.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    @crucial said in Pumas v All Blacks:

    For those interested, this was in a herald article earlier in the week

    All Blacks - Biggest workloads in 2017

    1. Damian McKenzie 1666 minutes
    2. Ngani Laumape 1423
    3. Brodie Retallick 1387
    4. Sam Whitelock 1371
    5. Beauden Barrett 1354
    6. TJ Perenara 1348
    7. David Havili 1338
    8. Ardie Savea 1275
    9. Anton Lienert-Brown 1265
    10. Rieko Ioane 1255

    Barrett would probably be no. 2 without the 12 yellow and red cards he's received this season.

    I imagine those minutes include the naughty chair time.

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