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The cost of going republic is massive. <br>
I'm no royalist but I don't see a need to change a political system that works reasonably well. <br>
Remember the the Queen is queen of NZ alongside being Queen of England etc. we aren't headed by a foreign Monarch just a monarch that also heads other countries. <br>
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The cost of going republic is massive. <br>
I'm no royalist but I don't see a need to change a political system that works reasonably well. <br>
Remember the the Queen is queen of NZ alongside being Queen of England etc. we aren't headed by a foreign Monarch just a monarch that also heads other countries. <br>
They may be a bunch of inbred Germans but having an independent entity isn't so bad.</p></blockquote>
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100% agree. The cost would be enormous for something most people don't really give a shit about. Would rather the Queen or any of her spawn over some snout in the trough politician. -
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<p>I liked red peak at first until I saw the people that had jumped on the bandwagon , Winger and a horde of leftards and Twitter bullies. I wanted no part of that .<br><br>
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<p>Isn't that the same attitude as the people not wanting a flag change because it was Key's baby?</p> -
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Isn't that the same attitude as the people not wanting a flag change because it was Key's baby?</p></blockquote>
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I guess you could say that, I was in favour of a change though. They were mostly trying to mess with the process and cause trouble . I didn't want to be part of that at all . -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/78322250/labour-mp-sue-moroney-slammed-for-meanspirited-lockwood-flag-attack'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/78322250/labour-mp-sue-moroney-slammed-for-meanspirited-lockwood-flag-attack</a></p>
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<p>haha I went to the beach over the weekend, and drove past an area I had seen flags flying, and low and behold they still had the alternative design flying, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I saw 2 of the other alternatives flying too, and they still were on Sunday!</p>
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<p>Sometimes you just gotta wonder what drives these people? Social media really has shown a lot of people up for the idiots they are.</p> -
<p>What is wrong with still flying the alternate if you like it?</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/78322250/labour-mp-sue-moroney-slammed-for-meanspirited-lockwood-flag-attack'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/78322250/labour-mp-sue-moroney-slammed-for-meanspirited-lockwood-flag-attack</a></p>
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<p>FFS <img src="http://www.h2g2.com/h2g2/skins/Alabaster/images/Smilies/f_facepalm.gif" alt="f_facepalm.gif"></p>
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<p>How petty and out of touch do Labour MPs want to look to the public?</p> -
<p>Sue <strong>Moron</strong>ey. Name says it all really. She is everything that is wrong with MMP, doesn't get near winning a seat but happily stands and hates from the sideline while getting well paid.</p>
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<p>A good portion of Labour/Green MP's are complete fucking hypocrites when it comes to wealth and spending.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mokey" data-cid="568162" data-time="1459239702"><p>Sue <strong>Moron</strong>ey. Name says it all really. She is everything that is wrong with MMP, doesn't get near winning a seat but happily stands and hates from the sideline while getting well paid.<br>
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A good portion of Labour/Green MP's are complete fucking hypocrites when it comes to wealth and spending.</p></blockquote>And until they change their philosophy hopefully the electorate will not see them fit to govern -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mokey" data-cid="568162" data-time="1459239702"><p>Sue <strong>Moron</strong>ey. Name says it all really. She is everything that is wrong with MMP, doesn't get near winning a seat but happily stands and hates from the sideline while getting well paid.<br>
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A good portion of Labour/Green MP's are complete fucking hypocrites when it comes to wealth and spending.</p></blockquote>
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I don't begrudge them having money in fact I'd prefer it if they had been in business and been successful rather than being just another pathetic career politician . But last election Cunliffe mocked Keys house and when his own place was shown to be just as expensive snivelled that it was a doer upper now we have this clown knocking people for having beach homes when she has one of her own . I think she's stood unsuccessfully in six elections but is so toxic the incumbents majority normally increases .<br><br>
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<p>BOP was one of only 6 electorates to vote in favour of change. So I blame you other useless bastards.</p>
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<p>Looks like the poorer socio economic groups and Maori electorates were heavily against.</p>
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<p>Looks like the poorer socio economic groups and <strong>Maori electorates were heavily against.</strong></p>
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<p>that is surprising really...yeah there was a thing in our local newspaper about how 'we' lead the way against change...</p> -
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<p>that is surprising really...yeah there was a thing in our local newspaper about how 'we' lead the way against change...</p>
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<p>Yes they should be super proud of keeping the flag of the UK on their flag....</p> -
<p>So, national anthem time anybody?</p>
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<p class="" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'proxnov-reg', arial, sans-serif;font-size:medium;">Aotearoa, rugged individual<br>
Glisten like a pearl, at the bottom of the world<br>
The tyranny of distance, didn't stop the cavalier<br>
So why should it stop me? I'll conquer and stay free</p>
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<p class="" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'proxnov-reg', arial, sans-serif;font-size:medium;">Ah c'mon all you lads, let's forget and forgive<br>
There's a world to explore, tales to tell back on shore<br>
I just spent six months in a leaky boat<br>
Six months in a leaky boat</p>
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