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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="546196" data-time="1449269448"><p>Tragically she was an anti gun Democrat I think. We need to be shooting pro gun republicans. Its like the church shooting - all Obama voters, he doesn't need reminding. We need a good Nascar shooting. Thats the core audience that needs convincing.</p></blockquote>
Sadly, that probably won't make a difference - they're wired that way.<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.vox.com/2015/12/4/9845146/mass-shootings-gun-control">http://www.vox.com/2015/12/4/9845146/mass-shootings-gun-control</a><br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><p>
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Chris Mooney summarized in an article last year, "liberals and conservatives disagree about politics in part because they are different people at the level of personality, psychology, and even traits like physiology and genetics." (Mooney later gathered that research in his somewhat unfortunately titled book The Republican Brain.)<br>
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Good timing you loon <br><br>
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I think it should be noted that 99.9% of gun owners in the US are responsible law-abiding citizens. If there are 300 million guns in circulation then guns used in massacres only represent a miniscule percentage of a percentage. Perhaps we should stop calling them gun owners, because that might offend the vast majority who might then be tempted to go postal.<br><br>
But seriously, the fact that some of them dirty sand goblins used assault rifles to actually kill people might be a wakeup call to the freaks who need to express their "freedom" by owning a arsenal that would put farking Rambo to shame. Then again, probably not. Like I said, its too late. Farking idiots. -
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<p>Good timing you loon<br><br><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/74780436/nevada-republican-michele-fiore-sends-family-christmas-card-featuring-guns'>http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/74780436/nevada-republican-michele-fiore-sends-family-christmas-card-featuring-guns</a></p>
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<p>Some of the comments on her FB feed are excellent! </p>
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<p>Pretty impressive, nailing all the quirks of psycho white trash in one pic.</p>
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<p>Pretty impressive, nailing all the quirks of psycho white trash in one pic.</p>
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<p>When I read your post I wondered if they did get them legally because the laws vary from state to state and I'd heard Csilfornias were strict by us standards . Unfortunately they were able to exploit a loophole <a class="bbc_url" href="http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/san-bernardino-shooters-assault-rifles-california_5661f892e4b079b2818ea0ac">http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/san-bernardino-shooters-assault-rifles-california_5661f892e4b079b2818ea0ac</a><br><br>
For what it's worth I think this was a terrorist act along the same lines as Paris , I hope the people who said it will be used as a distraction from the obvious issu though. There was an assault weapons ban in the states for 10 years that expired in 2004, apparently renewing it was being debated thd day of the shooting.</p>
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<p>That would be the Assault Weapons ban that was allowed to lapse because they could find no evidence that it actually decreased gun violence. Feinstein thought it was sensible to make her argument by showing pictures of dead babies on the senate floor and 15 of her own party crossed the floor to oppose her.</p> -
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Yep and it was a sensible bill that was up for renewal. Personally without looking at any evidence whatsoever I'd guess pistols are a huge part of the problem , cheap ,easily concealed and there's loads of them already out in circulation. That's not to say easy access to assault weapons is a good idea , I think our govt got things right in the wake of Aramoana. -
<p>New York Times front page editorial calls for gun control:</p>
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Interview with survivor of a mass shooting <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2015/12/05/after-a-mass-shooting-a-survivors-life/'>http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2015/12/05/after-a-mass-shooting-a-survivors-life/</a>
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Well, except to use it as a warning. It's interesting to read how she was a gun owner but now gets a little hairy around them. Unsurprisingly, of course.<br><br>
I mentioned earlier the Jim Jeffries clip I saw of him off-mic during a song break at a radio station in the US. The DJ is saying "I respect your thinking, but if I was your neighbour, and saw someone breaking into your house, I'd have no hesitation in shooting them."<br><br>
Without trying to pick a fight, Jeffries takes the line of caution, essentially saying that just shooting and maybe killing someone isn't to be taken lightly. <br><br>
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He is Jerry Falwells son , the shit has apparently not fallen far from the dog.</p></blockquote>Lol yeah let's have students carrying weapons around campus when they've had a few drinks, joints, or some disco bikkies. I'll bet that results in a lot less Muslim than Christian casualties. <br><br>
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<p>He is Jerry Falwells son , the shit has apparently not fallen far from the dog.</p>
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<p>In our last year of high school, a mate of mine who lived nearby had a car and his license. When we finished school (or skipped sport for "study" due to being in final year), we'd stop off at the local general store, pick up a couple of boxes of .22 and then go shoot coke cans for the afternoon.</p>
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<p>The lady behind the counter wasn't about to say no to the money, and I'd make big noises about "picking up some rabbit control for Dad!"</p>
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<p>Yeah. About 400 rabbits every week ;)</p>
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<p>Different times. Good times. </p>
Guns?.........or is that the least of the problems?