@taniwharugby Big difference between someone on there last legs or with a life threatening illness who are willing to take risks.
For people with a 1/250000 chance of dying you can respect their questioning of why.
I am full against mandatory vaccination. and the use of passports. Hopefully once the covid wave comes through we wil move along with life normally.
Yeah I can’t really respect TBH. Sure if you only think of yourself “it’s all about me” then you can go with that view. If you think the common good and society as a whole is a worthy concept, then vaccination is a no brainer.
Two things I struggle with:How much power are we willing to give governments, who are mostly made up of incompetent power hungry people? There are loads of things we could be doing for the "greater good" to stop people from getting sick and/or dying. Where do we draw the line? Life is full of risk, and for the majority of people the risk of Covid is actually comparatively lower than loads of things they do in their every day lives by choice.
The way I see it is the only concern with Covid is overwhelming health systems. If this virus is going to be endemic, then absolutely all resources should be going into beefing that system up. Governments in NZ have made a conscious choice to reduce funding for ICU and live close to the line. That decision has come back to bite us, so we should be reversing that decision and beefing it up so we don't have to do ridiculously costly lockdowns and even stupider "covid passports". Those things seriously impede people's freedoms and the former fucking ruins people's lives.
I agree with all of this. I don’t think asking people to have 2 vaccination jabs is too much.
On another note, has there ever been a proper audit done of maternal and newborn outcomes since midwives took over obstetric care…?